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JimmiCheddar has been arguing against the deletion of the "Terminology" section at NEMA connector. Fine so far, but recently the two IPs reported here reverted the article to Jimmi's preferred version (here and here).

These two IPs have no other history on WP, let alone on this article, and showed up to back up JimmiCheddar's position with reverts (with a flimsy appeal to "the majority" in first case and no talk page contribution whatsoever in the other). JimmiCheddar recently said he resides in Florida (first sentence of this edit to the talk page, and both of these IPs geolocate to the Florida panhandle, one to Tallahassee and the other to Altha, FL, a town about 40 miles to the west.

This is of course not proof, but I feel it is enough of a "suspicious circumstance" to justify an SP investigation. Jeh (talk) 07:47, 11 November 2017 (UTC) Jeh (talk) 07:47, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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See also Special:Contributions/2601:703:1:2990:E9CD:43A1:E96F:7774, an IPv6 address from "West Florida", who rushed to the defence of User:FF-UK in a very similar argument on a related page, and who had and still has no other contributions whatsoever.

In fact I will go as far as to say I suspect JimmiCheddar is a sockpuppet of FF-UK or vice versa. Both have persistently displayed ownership over NEMA connector, AC power plugs and sockets, AC power plugs and sockets: British and related types, Industrial and multiphase power plugs and sockets, Mains electricity by country and Industrial and multiphase power plugs and sockets. In point of fact of all the articles JimmiCheddar has contributed edits to—the aforementioned, IEC 60320, James Clerk Maxwell Foundation, Talk:SANS 164, Thomas Telford, Ring circuit, Sarasota, Florida and John Hamilton Gillespie—the only ones FF-UK hasn't also contributed to are the latter two: their "interests" overlap perfectly. They even share the same dismissive tone in their edit summaries. CplDHicks2 (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Here are a few perfect examples of said behaviour in action:


 * User:Yanpas adds an image to Mains electricity by country
 * FF-UK reverts 11 minutes later; summary: "Superfluous"
 * User:Gah4 reverts FF-UK's revert seven hours later; "It is a nice diagram, and it is much easier to compare a plug against this, than all the pictures of actual plugs. If too redundant, remove the pictures."
 * FF-UK re-reverts seven minutes later; "The diagram is superfluous, inaccurate, incomplete and not to a common scale. If the diagram were better it might be worth keeping."
 * an hour and ten minutes later Jeh re-reverts the re-revert; "the diagram is completely sufficient for its purpose. Additional plug types can be added but we don't need to hide this in the meantime"
 * a hour and 21 minutes later JimmiCheddar reverts once again—"DIAGRAM OF INSUFFICIENT QUALITY. see article talk page."—thereby avoiding WP:3RR


 * Yanpas adds the same image to AC power plugs and sockets
 * FF-UK takes a mere six minutes to revert it, with the edit summary "superfluous" once again
 * Jeh reverts FF-UK's revert about nine hours later, with the edit summary "not superfluous, any more than a schematic is "superfluous" next to a picture of the circuit it describes"
 * an hour and 18 minutes later JimmiCheddar re-reverts, with the edit summary "DIAGRAM OF INSUFFICIENT QUALITY."


 * about three weeks later User:DMahalko makes a small edit; summary: "→‎Application issues: explain why some plug/socket have their own fuses and switches separate from main distribution panel"
 * an hour and four minutes later, FF-UK reverts; "Socket switches are not safety features."
 * 28 minutes later User:Dodger67 reverts FF-UK's revert; "It's self-evidently obvious that switchs at sockets do have a safety role"
 * 13 hours later FF-UK re-reverts; "It is simply uninformed comment with no supporting reference. Switches are a convenience feature!"
 * two hours, 44 minutes later User:Chaheel Riens; "a convenience feature can also be a safety feature"
 * three hours later who else but JimmiCheddar reverts once again—"This comment should not be here without a WP Reliable Source"—thereby avoiding WP:3RR


 * User:98.232.114.87 makes a very small change at NEMA connector, changing instances of "US" to "U.S."; summary: "Corrected punctuation"
 * FF-UK reverts 29 minutes later; "Please do not "correct" what is not incorrect!"
 * 98.232.114.87 reverts 42 minutes later; "Restored change undone by FF-UK. Per Wikipedia style guide, periods in U.S. are dominant convention for U.S. and Canadian English, appropriate for article written in U.S. English about a U.S.-based standards body."
 * an hour & 43 minutes later JimmiCheddar re-reverts; "Nothing in MOS:US to say that US is incorrect!"


 * User:202.78.101.102 adds a few "citation needed" tags at Mains electricity by country ,
 * User:AnomieBOT adds dates to said tags, just doing some simple maintenance
 * about 14 hours later User:2601:703:80:80:7971:5C9A:1137:A35D, a "West Florida"-based IP with no other contributions, deletes said tags entirely; summary: "Reverting frivolous "Citatiion Needed" additions for items which have been previously agreed!"
 * an hour and a half later User: Gah4 puts them back; "Restore two, as I believe that these are worthwhile. If there is still a question about them, discuss on the talk page."
 * two hours, 41 minutes later JimmiCheddar re-reverts; "The cited reference IS given! (IEC 60884-1)"
 * Gah4 adds the reference about an hour later


 * CplDHicks2 (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


 * A couple hours ago JimmiCheddar reported User: Wtshymanski for "edit-warring" at Mains electricity by country, on FF-UK's behalf. See Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. CplDHicks2 (talk) 00:19, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I think it is also interesting that the JimmiCheddar account was created at 2015-11-18T02:04:18, about a month after the UK trio LiveRail/I B Wright/DieSwartzPunkt was found out and indef-blocked (20 October 2015). It then sat largely idle, with just 40 edits in nearly two years. Then and now, much of its editing consists of backing up FF-UK in various disputes as documented above by CplDHicks. The account seems to wake up just when it's needed to support FF-UK. If not a SP or MP of FF-UK this may well be yet another sleeper account created by whoever's behind the LiveRail group. Jeh (talk) 06:49, 14 November 2017 (UTC)


 * It is also very interesting that the JimmiCheddar account was created less than a week after a sockpuppet investigation began w.r.t. FF-UK and User:Blitzenlight, whose contributions to that point—similar to JimmiCheddar's as of now—had consisted almost entirely of backing up FF-UK in 'discussions' (arguments...) on Talk:AC power plugs and sockets. Blitzenlight made only a handful of edits thereafter, ceasing all activity as of January 13, 2016.


 * In all fairness it should be noted a CheckUser found no 'technical' similarities between the FF-UK and Blitzenlight, but the pattern of behaviour exhibited by FF-UK, Blitzenlight and JimmiCheddar is one and the same. CplDHicks2 (talk) 02:00, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Report format: discusses User:FF-UK, but not listed at head. 185.69.145.80 (talk) 14:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Note also WP:OWNER. Gah4 (talk) 19:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The two named accounts are ❌ technically and geographically. on IP addresses, except to say that they don't appear to be related to either accounts, and the IPV6 addresses are both stale.  Risker (talk) 01:20, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * It is fairly easy to do remote access though another system, such that the IP address appears unrelated. Hopefully it is obvious that I have no idea if anyone did that. Gah4 (talk) 02:21, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Closing this with no action since the IPs are stale and CU turned up unrelated both technically and geolocation. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:06, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Just wondering, one of the easiest to do remote web access through is AWS, but pretty much anything you can ssh into, can tunnel the web access though to the remote system. This is known to fool some sports sites that blackout local games. The IP addresses don't happen to be AWS do they? Gah4 (talk) 06:08, 6 January 2018 (UTC)