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Similar username content ("butters"), and similar disruption to List of largest stars. The two sock puppet accounts were created today, with the second one created shortly after the block made to the first one. Creating SPI to document the event; all accounts are blocked. Leaving for clerk to review and close.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   05:47, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * - Given the sockpuppetry to List of largest stars, this is probably . The usernames also suggest throwaway accounts. Please check to confirm and identify potential sleepers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * (same range and editing Cassini–Huygens)
 * (same range and editing Cassini–Huygens)
 * (same range and editing Cassini–Huygens)
 * (same range and editing Cassini–Huygens)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:27, 12 January 2018 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * is on a different continent and I was unable to make a determination on the IPs used by and their socks from the CU log.  might remember their country for comparison to the checks that I pulled today. The fact that some of the above accounts claim to be related to Joey indicates that either there is imitation to Space Infinite or the posting  here might otherwise tie the two groups together behaviorally.
 * Forgive me, but I've read your post more than once, and other than the fact that Joey and SI edit from different continents, I'm not sure what you mean or want.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:06, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying. I didn't have a complete picture of the IPs used by SI from the CU log or so I thought.

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:52, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, separately in same range as above and using similar devices, is ✅ to . An example of illegitimate socking for them would be this edit which was reverted by the former.
 * I've separated out the two accounts confirmed to each other but not the master at Sockpuppet investigations/MSMRHurricane, as they seem unrelated to JoeyP. As for the three possible accounts, Pappiddsasds seems unrelated as well. For Yo waz up there's not enough information to draw a meaningful conclusion one way or the other. Their username and single vandalism edit are certainly consistent with JoeyP's behaviour, but since the edit is to a page JoeyP has shown no prior interest in, they could just as easily be an unrelated vandal. Ar1001 is the trickiest of the three, but I'm inclined to say they're unrelated as well. They predate JoeyP by a few months. There editing is far less frequent and far less disruptive. That looks like a different person to me. Finally, with respect to Space Infinite, I've evaluated JoeyP against SI before here, and there's nothing here that meaningfully changes that analysis. Tagging and closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:21, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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Similar username again requests, and similar disruption to List of largest stars. Long history of attacking this page, and this edit requesting a 'Semi-protected edit request' is odd. The request is based just after three edits, and seems to be an attempt to effect change List of largest stars by a possible block user. Now banned JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat has used several page protection attempts seemingly to 'control' editors modifying the page. e.g. Although Arjayay has declined this request, it seems this potential IP sock is attempting to get around the pp-sock placed by Berean Hunter. IP 45.117.64.183 also seems to be somehow related to this IP, as they have edited similar Indian movie pages. I.e. v.  (Both with astronomical connection. Arianewiki1 (talk) 23:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * - Given how frequently they're hoping IP's, blocking individual addresses is unlikely to accomplish anything here. With the List of largest stars already protected, no further action is needed here. Could an admin clerk please merge this into Sockpuppet investigations/JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat? Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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All were very interested in the List of Largest Stars. (all of their interests are Plate Tectonics and Astronomy in general.) After Joey got blocked, he opened a wikia that contains a list of largest stars: http://everythingyouneedtoknowaboutscience.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_the_largest_stars The changes of 88.188.215.39 and ZaperaWiki44 highly resemble Joey's wikia list. The mass edit wars between them could have also been for fun, or they could be influenced by the behavior of User:Space Infinite's sockpuppets. Futhermore, their sandboxes have the same material (a list of stars). For me, a very obvious WP:DUCK. --Ineedtomakeasockinvestigation (talk) 17:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Given their past interaction with JoeyP, these two are clearly unrelated. Closing without action. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * . Can we check the case filer? It is obviously a sockpuppet created to avoid scrutiny.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No other accounts seen.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Any further action required? Thanks, GABgab 15:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No. Closing this.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

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Obvious duck is obvious. User page redirected to blocked puppet Daniel "Danny" Wilson (despite claiming not to be JoeyP), edits the same page as JoeyP did. Blocked, reporting here for posterity. Primefac (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * . Primefac (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - Given JoeyP's history of using more than one account at once, please check to identify potential sleepers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I closed this an hour ago.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:22, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Quack. Reported for a shared username block based on name and. I then found this SPI so adding it here. The above diff has the editor claiming to be "Joey P. knows a lot about that and Natalia Evyanova". The edit show the typical interest in stars and  for example. Userpage strongly suggests a returning sock. Meters (talk) 03:41, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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Certainly this is a sock of User:JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat. They have edited similar articles, the first being Antares, which is claimed on my Talkpage here that also includes a similar taunt. Another is here. They also defiantly claim "YOU WILL NEVER STOP US!'", while 'Click to talk..' links to of User:JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat. Arianewiki1 (talk) 11:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * by Casliber and myself, respectively. Primefac (talk) 11:48, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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Quack. Restoring edits by known socks, including trying to reopen Sockpuppet investigations/Space Infinite again. Compare and  with  and  Meters (talk) 23:20, 7 April 2018 (UTC) Also compare with  and  Meters (talk) 23:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC) Characteristic interest in star sizes and  Meters (talk) 23:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * - . Please indef new sock. Sro23 (talk) 05:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * . Closing. Primefac (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP addresses editing Danny Lorraine prior to redirecting
 * IP addresses editing Danny Lorraine prior to redirecting
 * IP addresses editing Danny Lorraine prior to redirecting

Joey is a disruptive editor that has been blocked several times. His interests include astronomy, chemistry, and Martha Speaks (the TV show Danny Lorraine is from). For DannyWilson717, see https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Contributi/DannyWilson717. As for BROBDINGNAGIANS ARE WIMPS, see his contributions: typical interest in astronomy and Martha Speaks, specifically Danny Lorraine 210.246.17.65 (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * DannyWilson717 hasn't edited on the English wikipedia. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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JoeyPknowsalotboutthat (and "his friends") is a/are vandal(s) based in Russia and New Zealand. His interests are astronomy and the children's sitcom Martha Speaks (TV series) (his minor interests include chemistry, Michael Learns to Rock, and Gulliver's Travels, etc.) Earlier, JoeyP abused a whole IP range to create an article on a Martha Speaks character (compare the expanding IP addresses to the IP addresses abused by Joeyp at the list of largest stars).

Additionally, user Simulation12 tried to create articles on Danny's wife and daughter. Even though the contributions are 9 years apart, they seem suspicious to me. Could Joeyp be a revival of Simulation12? I think so. JoeyP believes that Martha Speaks characters deserve their own WP articles, not South Park characters, via his video here.

Secondly, for V255 Canis Majoris, both like to edit the list of largest stars. V255 Canis Majoris's contributions aims are to make the stars as large as possible with uncited sizes, similar to what Joeyp did.

Lastly, for Niyet', "niyet" is Russian for "no", and Joeyp claims to be Russian, so obvious WP:DUCK for Niyet'. Niyet' has also edited the list of largest stars and has added uncited values to the list. Jcharlesk also made the exact same edits with NML Cygni Thanks. 121.74.232.211 (talk) 03:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Enough users listed here to merit a check - requesting CU. Primefac (talk) 14:22, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw redlinks and (both metaphorically and literally) "saw red" - the accounts contradict each other at points, so this will probably come down to behavioural evidence. I'm removing the CU request for now. Primefac (talk) 01:09, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that at least some of these accounts appear to be coincidentally interested in the same subjects. I've seen them predate, overlap, and operate mostly independently of the sockmaster; it would need quite some conspiracy for them to actually be socks.  Lithopsian (talk) 13:17, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I am closing this with no action taken - there would have to be some serious GHBH going on, as each account has at some point contradicted one of the others; they are all clearly interested in the same subject (massive black holes) but they don't seem to share the same other interests as the master. Primefac (talk) 00:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

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Another recently-created account with a suggestive name and an obsessive interest in the largest stars and minor Martha Speaks characters. Edits are largely "good faith", but disruptive and usually reverted (admittedly many of them by me), for example Antares and Helen Lorraine. Lithopsian (talk) 19:46, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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The user has apparently admitted to being a sock. Lithopsian (talk) 10:41, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Good enough for me. . Leaving it open in case a CU wants to tack it on to the above request. Primefac (talk) 15:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Had a chat with DQ on IRC, nothing doing. Closing. Primefac (talk) 01:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

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Looks like another multiple blocked sock of User:JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat, and suspect sock User:Joey P. x Natalia Evyanova and they have also used "Danny" as another known sock for User:Daniel "Danny" Wilson. (Noting they made a Semi-protection on this article talkpage.) Edit here. Arianewiki1 (talk) 23:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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Please merge to the proper case.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:18, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved, . GABgab 16:23, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, along with . Primefac (talk) 23:01, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

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Looks like another multiple blocked sock of User:JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat, edits are on Largest stars articles, as well as List of Martha Speaks characters, left a comment on talk page that is identical to responses sock has given in the past. Bkissin (talk) 20:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP edits are too old. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 01:43, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

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on Talk:List of largest stars, also redirect user page to this user. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 03:26, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * . Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:00, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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Same interest in Talk:UY Scuti as another blocked account JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat=Danny Fenton. See: 1, 2. The "Sasha" in username is also a match to socks in archive. CU requested to confirm and find others. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 19:25, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * since this is pretty obvious. I'm not a clerk but I'd endorse a CU based on past issues. Primefac (talk) 19:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is necessary - closing. GABgab 22:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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Thesmartestdude has made unconstructive edits on UY Scuti and JayKayXD has made unconstructive edits to the list of largest stars JayKayXD like what JoeyP did. IHATE JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat has made only one edit, on the same article. As for Ilikechristians II, her name matches that of an earlier sock and has made similar edits (compare with  and ).

I am concerned about the last one being a possible sock because not only does the name allude to recent socks like, but of the presence of "1228" in the title, which I think alludes to Joeyp's unconstructive edits here (883 x 1391400 = 1228606200)

Maddie Fenton and JoeyP is back would both be obvious.

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 * JayKayXD has been around a long time and I assume they would have been caught by a CU if they were JoeyP. The others are either already blocked or fairly obvious.  I'd also note the filing IP's contributions  (the IPV6 /64). power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 01:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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Blocked two accounts without tags. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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Vandalising same pages as Danny Phantom (Daniel Fenton), confirmed sock of the master. Horst Hof (talk) 10:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC) Horst Hof (talk) 10:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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✅ — Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Both accounts locked earlier today by.
 * Both accounts locked earlier today by.
 * Both accounts locked earlier today by.
 * Close The SandDoctor  Talk 14:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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Same behaviour of recent socks, username similarity. Repeated unsourced alteration of data concerning astronomic objects (see revision history of SMC 018136 or HV 11423 for example). Horst Hof (talk) 10:45, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Multiple edits to astronomy-related articles under very similar name. ― A Poor Historian (talk) 10:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Name is a dead giveaway — Thanks for the fish!  talk •contribs  12:44, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * Globally locked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Fenton Lorraine family, The 10 largest stars by radius, etc. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 14:59, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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Obvious socks are obvious; accounts already blocked, just noting for the record. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 14:59, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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This one is fairly obvious, same Danny and Emily usernames as socks in archive; edit was reverted and later another sock restored it: 1, 2. CU would be a good idea to find other unblocked accounts. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 14:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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✅ — Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Sock account is indef'd and tagged.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Berean Hunter. Account blocks are updated to include this SPI report, and the accounts are tagged. This SPI can be closed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

✅ these from a different range taken from the archive and found one that wasn't blocked — Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked the missed account, tagged all accounts listed here and updated the blocks of the other accounts (excluding the one that's CU blocked by Berean Hunter).  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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"Joey P" and "Daniel Lorraine" in the username are clear giveaways. The account edited Stellar classification which has been edited by these sock accounts too: They've already created other socks today, including: Always a good idea to search for other unblocked accounts. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 03:23, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * All blocked (plus a few more) and no current sleepers. -- zzuuzz (talk) 03:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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See below. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  18:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

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As requested by. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  18:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , you may be interested because I saw that you had globally blocked some of the underlying IPs and cross wiki abuse is likely from this LTA. You may want to lock these accounts as well.


 * Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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Block evasion: continuing a pattern of abuse on List of star extremes, RW Cephei and DU Crucis. Scorbunny (talk) 18:06, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * Nothing to do here. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:31, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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Block evasion: continuing a pattern of abuse on Stellar classification and List of star extremes, including references to JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat and "Danny" Fenton: eg, , and. Lithopsian (talk) 17:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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 * The Lolly Dolly Daniel Danny Phantom was never blocked, so . 181.197.157.183 was also used, but is no longer in use. 118.148.213.28 is obvious, . ST47 (talk) 20:10, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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Block evasion: continuing a pattern of abuse on articles about stellar extremes, especially large stars and red supergiants. The usernames themselves are pretty obvious and the edit comments continue the same themes concerning "Joey Pelobel", "Danny Fenton", and "Ian Kelley". Edits are now entirely vandalism where previously there were some attempts to be constructive. See, , and for example diffs. Lithopsian (talk) 10:09, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

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Continued block evasion by User:JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat. Harassment of editors who deleted drafts and articles related to Danny Lorraine. Bkissin (talk) 21:54, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

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I've blocked the 64 range. in future please use the standard interface at WP:SPI to create reports so they get formatted and categorised properly. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

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IP user tried to resurrect the article Danny Lorraine by changing a redirect to text. Per Articles for deletion/Danny Lorraine the article about this cartoon character should be a redirect. Comment on IP's edit was "When will you people learn to endorse good things for once? Seriously" indicating some sort of ongoing campaign, and quite possibly a block evasion.  PK T (alk)  01:49, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment added after Administrator note from : I think that's fair.  I appreciate the re-protection of the page.  Mucho obligado...... PK  T (alk)  02:04, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * this is the first edit by that IP, and I've re-protected the page in question. CU's will not confirm an IP is directly related, and if it is JoeyP they'll just hop to a new IP anyway, so there's really not much to do here in my opinion. If a clerk disagrees with me feel free to re-open. Primefac (talk) 01:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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- Frood (talk!) 04:23, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

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Second this. The account is an obvious sock, although ’m not familiar with the tentative master. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 04:49, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Obviously some sort of sockpuppet, looks like this is the correct master based on their interest in astronomical objects. Closing. ST47 (talk) 05:08, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

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Blocked for vandal edits, same pattern with a fixation on Martha Speaks (see for an example). Claims to be JoeyP here.

Requesting a check for sleepers. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:02, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

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Already done. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:09, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

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If u see contribs, this user did the same thing as Ellipsanime: vandalism involving Helen Lorraine, Danny Phantom and asteroids. Oh, and please decline the unblock request. ミラP 05:14, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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There are four users (see Suspected sockpuppets) made their edits on "Antares", an article where this user (JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat and his socks) edited here. Most of their edits are reverted by any users, being warned on their talk page(s), and blocked indefinitely. I think their usernames are looks identical to some of the names of the series (ex. cast). Rdp060707 (Talk/My fight against the devil/contributions) 13:08, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * The accounts are already blocked, and stale so they cannot be checked. No further action is needed here. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:20, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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Pro-forma per checkuser. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:42, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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This is JoeyP... (no tags needed). -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * pro forma. Ponyo bons mots 21:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged; noting for the record. CU wiki updated as well.-- Ponyo bons mots 21:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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seems to be an active range of IPs being used by this person. the 118.148.x.x range was mentioned previously here and a random IP from 118.149.x.x added the "Wikipedia sockpuppets of JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat" category to the talk page of Daniel Aaron William "Danny" Wilson which is unblocked and has 0 edits. (diff) edits from both ranges appear to be solely related to cartoons and they appear to be consistently removing content on pages. dawnbails (talk) 23:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The edit onto the locked account was from April last year. edits from both ranges appear to be solely related to cartoons and they appear to be consistently removing content on pages - sure there are some edits to WP:BFDI and its talk page, but the (very wide) ranges have a variety of edits to a variety of topic and in general do not display the same behaviour JoeyP does. . DatGuyTalkContribs 10:05, 24 September 2023 (UTC)