Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/John from Idegon/Archive

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John from Idegon is a user who was indefinitely blocked in September of 2020 for personal attacks. Johndvandevert is a user whose account was created in March of this year. What ties them together, aside from John, which is a very common name, is that Johndvandevert made a peculiar comment on Draft:Marsha Music "I thought now four years ago this article was to be deleted? Why is it still here? Johndvandevert (talk) 20:59, 8 June 2021 (UTC) " In addition to this statement being odd on its face since Johndvandevert's account was created this year, John from Idegon was the user who nominated the article for deletion in 2017. Jackattack1597 (talk) 14:46, 15 June 2021 (UTC) My sincere apologies to Johndvandevert, I'm not sure why I didn't think to check the time zones and writing styles, I just got caught up and confused by the wording of the one statement. I will stay away from SPI for a while. Jackattack1597 (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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First off, I know this person offline and she was well in the know. Also, why is this a contentious point? There was already a deliberation and consensus that this article was to be deleted. I am sure you are aware about this. What is the problem? Johndvandevert (talk) 14:54, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This draft was nominated for deletion on March 12, 2017. The result of the discussion was delete.Please explain this then. Johndvandevert (talk) 14:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: You made a mistake and you apologized to Johndvandevert, which I think is a good thing. What about also apologizing to  as well since your mistake also impacts him? You could strike the notification you left on his user talk page and leave a brief apology, or simply remove it and apologize in your edit summary. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * I don't see sufficient evidence that these two are the same person. John from Idegon was very focused on school articles, something Johndavendevert (who is strongly focused on Husky (rapper)) has shown no interest in, the two are not in the same timezone with both timecards matching the stated locations on the userpages, and have very dissimilar writing styles. As Johndvandevert points out, the MfD thing is easily explained by the talk page banner.  Please take the time to carefully examine (dis)similarities between users before filing, especially when filing users with extremely long tenure – overlap is essentially unavoidable in such cases. Closing. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 15:05, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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I put this SPI off for months, but the fact that he continued socking even after being blocked by a CU leaves me no choice. John from Idegon was blocked last September for personal attacks. He had already been blocked and unblocked in July for the same reason. He clearly edited from the first IP address after his initial indefinite block. He even admits to being John in one of his last contributions. He then stopped after he was unblocked. After his second block, John began editing from the second IP range. It changes quite rapidly. I noticed something strange about the IP after he stopped by my talk page one day. I brought it up with NinjaRobotPirate, who agreed with my suspicions. This third IP address came into existence immediately after the second one was range-blocked. All of them have an interest in American schools. Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:37, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Lastly, the third IP address is located in an area that John from Idegon has openly connected himself with. Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:38, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Pinging all editors involved in the last SPI. I was not aware of it when I filed this one via Twinkle. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:38, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Last edit. I also see that he admitted to socking in this edit. Scorpions13256 (talk) 04:27, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * I've only looked at 209.63.121.20, which is the only active and unblocked IP. It's him. Focus and timing match, so does the writing style, particularly in edit summaries – compare e.g.  and note the occasional tendency of both IP and master to make two-sentence edit summaries where only the second sentence starts with a capital letter .  – please block the IP for 6 months, John has been using it since November. I'll leave it up to you whether you want to reblock the master for socking as well. --Blablubbs&#124;talk 15:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ - TNT 😺 16:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)