Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Johnali123/Archive

Report date August 12 2009, 16:23 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Momusufan

All these users involved have made edits to the talk page of Talk:List of best-selling music artists. One user Johnali123 posted this. I replied and then another user named Passwordplus made this response saying in part "but i have just gave you lot cnn sources which say he has sold 750 records..." giving me the impression that they are both the same user. Johnali123 was recently blocked for 3RR violations and now came off that block. Another user came in by the name of Mrparissm but i'm not sure if he's involved with either of these users.


 * I have added 92.3.34.136. This is a thorny issue of sourcing that requires some careful weighting of evidence and credibility. Instead, the discussion is being made impossible by the onslaught of illiterate comments. Unfortunately, illiteracy isn't a rare trait on Wikipedia, so that's not enough to conclusively decide someone is a sock. I've added an RFCU request to this report to be sure.&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Behavioral evidence clearly indicate that these accounts are the same user. You got one user who basically admitted to being a sock, and the others experience the exact same editing behavior. WP:DUCK applies. MuZemike 01:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Blocked and tagged. Nja 247 07:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * Taggging fixed; archiving. NW ( Talk ) 17:42, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Report date August 19 2009, 15:55 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets



The discussion at Talk:List of best-selling music artists is continuing to be disrupted by accounts that seemed to have created (or in Z.K. HAL's case, revived), specifically and exclusively to argue one side of the issue. It is probable that at least one of these accounts is a good faith account created by someone with a strong opinion, but it is definite that one or more of them are socks intended to create a false consensus. I can't see any way to sort it out without a checkuser.
 * Evidence submitted by Kww


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by &mdash;Kww(talk) 15:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

MuZemike 16:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

(to Checkuser handling this case) Please check underlying IP/range as well and for any other sleepers. MuZemike 16:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC) ✅ = ❌:
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * Note that the checkuser is currently being run by User:J.delanoy, so no one has to start running the checkusers now. NW ( Talk ) 19:23, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
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 * The range Johnali123 is editing from is very large and apparently very dynamic. And very active. There are too many people editing from it for me to be able to find sleepers. I'll ask another CU if they think they can do anything with it. J.delanoy gabs adds  19:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to get all the confirmed socks blocked?  Momo san  Gespräch 19:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright, User:Protonk took care of the blocks and I tagged all the userpages. Momo san Gespräch 19:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In the future, you can just leave the tagging to the clerks (that's what we're here for), but thank you for your help. Everything looks good now; closing the case. NW ( Talk ) 20:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Report date August 20 2009, 14:07 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Momusufan

2 New SPA accounts that just appeared at the talk page for list of best selling artists and appear to be socks of indefblocked Johnali123.

To see if those socks are Johnali123. Momo san Gespräch 14:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users

Requested by Momo san  Gespräch 14:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * , and maybe we should start to think about semi-protecting that talk page. NW ( Talk ) 15:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions
 * Both appear to be ❌. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 15:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Detagged; welcomed both users. NW ( Talk ) 16:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)