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It was brought to my attention that there was a very odd pattern of edits at Articles for deletion/Ron Dwight. It appears that we have a set of sleepers here, or potential meatpuppetry, as a number of accounts - all idle for years, and in one case created and left idle for two years before making its first-ever edit there - appeared making edits over a very short period of time, and all with identical symbol signatures. I think there's enough here to call for a check to see what's going on for certain. (Note that I don't consider User:Grin, whose signature is apparently the one being copied by the others, to be part of the sockfarm - from appearances, he canvassed one of his friends, Joho68, who probably 'borrowed' the sig format and then spread it to the other two accounts I believe are connected here.) The Bushranger One ping only 11:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Look how Wikipedia have changed! Back in time we asked fellow editors about problems, tried to discuss problems, and started accusations and investigation afterwards, if all else have failed. Now, it's assume bad faith and accuse straight on. No communication, only a badly chosen boilerplate, after the fact. Shame on you. (Also, as a sidenote, go on with investigating, if you chose that instead of civilised methods. Most people involved are known by their real names in the Fidonet community, and most of them are famous by itself. I happen to have my data registered at WMF, including my passport, since I am one with access. But don't worry about me. Worry about what you are doing. What you are doing to Wikipedia, its community, and the healthy tone we used to have. And hopefully you will learn from this, as we all probably do.) --grin ✎ 12:23, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note to everyone else: you can talk to me. It usually works. ;-) --grin ✎ 12:23, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:AGF applies in both directions. I take no pleasure in actions such as this, but it's better to clear things up, as mentioned below. - The Bushranger One ping only


 * What on earth is this all about?! I don't need to impersonate anyone or anyone's account. How ridiculous?! I may have copied signature text or similar in THAT specific post because I was a bit unclear over the format. But I can assure you that my comments regarding Ron Dwight were my own. So, do what you need to do to make yourself happy, but may I suggest you go after people who truly pollute Wikipedia instead? SIGNED BY MYSELF, RIGHT HERE, 21 Nov 2017 at around 15:14, Swedish Snow Time. Is that alright with you? --Joho68 —Preceding undated comment added 14:15, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It has nothing to do with "making myself happy". It has to do with the fact that when an AfD on an obscure topic suddenly gets multiple keeps in a short period of time, none of which actually cite policy, all of which are from sleepers who have never edited more than once or twice years ago (or, in one case, at all), and all of which use copycat formatting, it's hard not to reach the conclusion that they are directly connected, whether it's one person or several. In fact, many admins would have seen the accounts here and simply outright blocked them, straight off, per the duck test based on the above analysis, as while it's easy to believe that one editor would copy signature text, three, one after the other after the other, is harder to swallow. However I'm willing to extend good faith that this was unintended, hence the SPI, which will clear it up one way or another. If it comes up negative, then I'm sorry to have dragged you here, but in the future you - and the other editors involved - will still need to remember that when !voting at AfD, you need to argue based on policy and reliable sources, not personal experience. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:07, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Please check to confirm vote-stacking. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:53, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ius and Warpgoji are to each other, and Joho68 is ❌ to them. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:56, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Again, sorry to drag the participants here, but this was a case of 'it's better to determine you're not'. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:37, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * With both accounts seemingly inactive, and no further attempts to vote-stack the afd in question, I'm closing this without further action. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:32, 28 November 2017 (UTC)