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Looks like WP:DUCK and block evasion. The sockmaster is indef-blocked due to his non-stop disruptive edits, especially on List of Turkic dynasties and countries. Just after the block, this new account appeared and his edit pattern is very similar to Joohnny braavoo1. Wario-Man (talk) 02:31, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * He's familiar with WP rules and to avoid insta-block, he didn't continue edit warring by the new account. Like Joohnny braavoo1, Anatolia2018 targeted Bulgarian-related articles. Compare sockmaster with new account . Similar edit pattern and they even use similar edit summaries. --Wario-Man (talk) 04:18, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * - I've been looking at this case, and while the page overlap is clear, a direct behavioral connection is not jumping out at me. I'd appreciate if you could clarify how these two accounts are behaviorally similar. Feel free to email me if you like. Thanks, GABgab 13:51, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I see the similarity now. . GABgab 22:07, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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Looks like another WP:DUCK of the blocked sockmaster. Edits, edit summaries and talk page comments match with Joohnny braavoo1's. How? Tries to create Turkic origin for non-Turkic groups by misrepresenting of source(s). Wario-Man (talk) 08:17, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * More evidences: User waited to become autoconfirmed and then returned to his favorite target List of Turkic dynasties and countries (the article is protected due to non-stop sockpuppetry of the reported user). Then added a non-Turkic group. Typical Joohnny braavoo1. --Wario-Man (talk) 17:58, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Plus it's interesting this "new" user found articles created by Long-term abuse/Tirgil34 ( and Tabitu), and then did his typical edits. Adding non-Turkic groups as Turkic. Completely matches with Joohnny braavoo1 and his socks/IPs' edits. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * How everything is stale? It's a new account. --Wario-Man (talk) 08:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * So what should I do? Just waiting? --Wario-Man (talk) 08:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Everything is, sorry. GABgab 17:05, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There are no non-stale puppets to compare the account to. Sro23 (talk) 08:04, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The behavioral evidence is quite convincing. . GABgab 00:15, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK. This account was registered on 23 November 2017, just 2 days after previous sockpuppet User:Brazil38 was blocked. Edited some pages to pass autoconfirmed requirements and then returned to his favorite article List of Turkic dynasties and countries. Added two non-Turkic/uncertain dynasty to the list. Also his edit on Tatar confederation completely matches with Joohnny braavoo1's typical edits. Adding a random book to the main article and then adding the main article to article List of Turkic dynasties and countries. The new account uses Sweden IP like the sockmaster. Wario-Man (talk) 10:46, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * More evidences. When I reverted his edit, He just behaved like previous socks. Compare his edit summary with, . Also he knows what he did so he removed one of the wrong entries. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:57, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please, compare to .  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:07, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Salvio Let's talk about it! 12:26, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * , closing. GABgab 15:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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Another WP:DUCK. Edited Template:Tunnels in Turkey just like the sockmaster. Even the edit summaries are same. Compare, , with. And List of tunnels in Turkey which edited by Joohnny braavoo1 and his last sosckpuppet User:Tamalay. Went to his favorite article talk page Talk:List of Turkic dynasties and countries and wrote his typicl stuff. As a new user how he found the admin User:GeneralizationsAreBad whom banned multiple socks of him?! Plus the writing style and his poor English is similar to the sockmaster's. Wario-Man (talk) 10:07, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 15:54, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK. Compare this with blocked sock User:Sazz10 comment on talk page. Other contributions are exactly similar to sockmaster typical behavior: Note: Please range-block his IP-address if it's possible. Wario-Man (talk) 19:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Editing his user page and talk page to gain autoconfirmed right, . He did this before. See previous reports.
 * Representing non-Turkic peoples as Turkic, , ,

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✅ to other socks, e.g., Sazz10. . Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:14, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

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This is another WP:DUCK case in my opinion. Wario-Man (talk) 05:48, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Added same stuff to Merkit just like sockmaster. The citation is different from sockmaster's edit but the POV-pushing is same. Compare master, , , with sockpuppet
 * Just like previous reported sockpuppets, edited an article 10 times to become an auto-confirmed user. See Taichiud. 12 edits for gaining auto-confirmed user right.
 * The edits match with Joohnny braavoo1's typical POV-pushing. Targeting non-Turkic groups or people with disputed/uncertain origins and adding Turkic or Turco-Mongol to them (misrepresenting the sources): Jalairs:,  Merkit:  Taichiud:  Modu Chanyu:
 * Edit summaries are similar to previous reported sockpuppets

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its a joke delete useful reference okey if they were not correct, and call me sockpuppet i dont know that wikipedia worked so i have only added correct reference but someone dont like it Limbozz (talk) 11:25, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

you forget the Mongol empire page Limbozz (talk) 11:39, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

at least my edit on modu chanyu should stay or on mongol empire then the problem is resolvedLimbozz (talk) 12:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

stop to guess that i am this and thatLimbozz (talk) 14:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * - . I truly don't believe that CU is necessary. Please block sock. Sro23 (talk) 03:51, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * . Favonian (talk) 15:36, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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First edit was to "Turkify" the Xiongnu page. Though its the first edit the account has ever made, he already knows how to reference. This article has been extensive targeted in the past by sockmaster & co, with the exact same POV (i.e. Tamalay, Sazz10, Joohnny braavoo1).

Polar starr matches the editorial pattern of Joohnny braavoo1 (obsessed with Turkifying many articles, overemphasizing in favor of a Turkic POV, same proficiency in English). Alike the other socks and the sockmaster, "Polar starr" tries to fool people straight off the bat (using the same English as the master and earlier blocked socks);

- LouisAragon (talk) 22:08, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * "If I've done the wrong change, then you can fix it if you want thanks" --Sazz10.
 * "Hi you could help me on the page list of turkic dynasty someone is not willing to cooperate user beshogur Have also tried but no solution, Feels so unnecessary to discuss with this person because he does not approve of anythin and this person change ip adress istead of logg in" --Joohnny braavoo1
 * "''This is the first time I'm in Wikipedia,If you think I've been blocked before, I would chang on every page that this person did not like --Polar starr


 * Another smoking gun: on the Rasulid dynasty (a dynasty of uncertain origins), he added a link to List of Turkic dynasties and countries; the sockmaster and all his socks have proven to be absolutely obsessed about this article; (i.e. Tamalay, Brazil38, Anatolia2018, Joohnny_braavoo1, etc.) - LouisAragon (talk) 22:25, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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This is just another WP:DUCK. His edits, edit pattern, and comments are identical to the sockmaster and previous reported scokpuppets. Sweden IP (books.google.se), just like previous reported socks. He just appeared after I removed one of his leftovers and as usual, he did his typical nationalistic agenda.. Obvious sockpuppet is obvious. --Wario-Man (talk) 07:43, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

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✅ to previous socks. . Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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After blocking previous sockpuppet on 9 July, this new account appeared and has targeted similar articles.

Just another WP:DUCK in my opinion. --Wario-Man (talk) 08:35, 17 July 2018 (UTC) Wario-Man (talk) 08:35, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Al-Ashraf Umar II: Previous sock . New account . Both of them tried to change or remove the category (ethnicity, background).
 * Rasulid dynasty: Previous sock, , , . New account: . Similar POV-pushing and ignoring WP:WEIGHT.

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 * Too obvious for CU. Indeffing and tagging. Sro23 (talk) 21:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * This edit (removal/changing of "Mongol") is similar to a blocked sockpuppet of Joohnny braavoo1; MeLoveGames' edits.
 * The behavior is also similar to Joohnny braavoo1; removal of content about Mongol-ness of that people Wario-Man (talk) 14:36, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * From a behavioral standpoint, Amab1377 looks unrelated to . While the edits are similar, Joohnny braavoo1 typically writes with poor punctuation and English grammar, whereas Amab1377 has been considerably better about it: (not perfect, but definitely at a higher level). Amab1377 also edits primarily from the mobile web, whereas MeLoveGames edited using the desktop interface. Keraites is the only article that overlaps with MeLoveGames. Although I can see why this account was reported and understand the suspicion, in my view there is not enough behavioral evidence to check or block this account (though I would not object too loudly if another checkuser decided to check anyway), and for these reasons, I would close this case without action. Mz7 (talk) 20:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)