Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jordan-Hooper-AOAPJM/Archive

30 November 2014

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Block evasion, my apologies if this was permitted via name-change. &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(talk)  21:31, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * Hi. Yes, the other account I have used was banned for vandalism (as I mentioned in my user page). I apologise if this is not allowed. --Jordan Hooper (talk) 21:39, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * (Sorry, I need to clarify what I just said above) My previous account was deleted for vandalism, and I am not using my other account any more because of that. I apologise for what I have done, and I want to use this account to make Wikipedia a better place.--Jordan Hooper (talk) 21:44, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * Closing without block, but with userboxes on both previous and current account - I feel generous today. Socking should not be encouraged but a brief review of the user's recent contributions show that he seems to be constructive and blocking a reformed problem user seems counter-productive. I'm glad that you stuck around and managed to start actually helping, and thanks a lot for your honesty in admitting your "dark past", if I can call it that. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  19:06, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets


Sorry, this is a bit complicated. Here is a timeline: Here is a list of old blocked socks; please note that, while some of these appear in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Liborbital/Archive, the more recent socks in that archive are unrelated to this case. These accounts share an interest in British politics, LGBT topics, and internet culture. Several of them edited the Scots Wikipedia.



Here are newer, unblocked accounts that I think are related.
 * (formerly Bangalamania)

The Editor Interaction Analyzer tool shows extensive overlaps between AFreshStart and the old blocked socks.condensed version Notice in particular William H. Pryor Jr.: In 2016 Jupitusese made these edits that were later oversighted. HelgaStick readded the information in 2017, and AFreshStart added it again in 2019. Mondodi made an English Wikipedia userpage for JayCoactus on 12 October 2020, the same day JayCoactus created an account. JayCoactus didn't start editing enwiki until 25 October. I think that he had forgotten which account he was signed into at the time. AFreshStart, JayCoactus, and Mondodi are among the most active scowiki editors. They have substantial overlaps in pages edited:. Mondodi and AFreshStart both worked on translating articles cross-wiki. (For example, Mondodi wrote sco:George H. W. Bush an broccoli, then translated it to simple:George H. W. Bush and broccoli, en:George H. W. Bush broccoli comments, fr:Commentaires sur le brocoli de George H. W. Bush, de:George H. W. Bush und broccoli, cy:Sylwadau casineb George H. W. Bush am frocoli, and da:George H. W. Bush antibroccoli kommentarer. AFreshStart has done similar things with other articles, though not in so many languages.) AFreshStart published the English translation of Auchenbowie House (diff) only ten minutes after JayCoactus finished writing the original Scots version (hist). On the English Wikipedia, Mondodi and AFreshStart share an interest in early 20th-century German LGBT history, while JayCoactus and AFreshStart share an interest in particular internet celebrities like Danny Gonzalez, Kurtis Conner, and Oli London. gnu 57 17:50, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AFreshStart is Zumoarirodoka et al.
 * Mondodi is JayCoactus
 * AFreshStart is JayCoactus/Mondodi

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 * CU says that AFreshStart, JayCoactus, and Monondi are ✅ - I'd say confirmed, but there are some technical details that make me wonder if it's multiple people sharing an IP who know each other. This is a crucial issue, because as far as I can tell there have been no sockpuppet/meatpuppet issues between the three of them. All three are to some of the past accounts Genericusername listed based on CU log data (same country, I don't trust the geolocation beyond that). * Based on article overlap and some edit summary peculiarities I am also reasonably convinced that AFreshStart is, at the very least, the same person as Zumoarirodoka. I do not see the same edit summary peculiarities in the other two accounts, but there's also less sample data. The question becomes whether these are in fact one person or two/three separate people. On the one hand, the aforementioned CU data, the strong overlap in articles, plus all of them using the same tool (User:Edward/Find_link). On the other hand, none of those distinguishes between "same person" and "people who know each other". I would appreciate a second pair of eyes here, since I am hesitant to block the others if they're not the same person since I don't see any flagrant evasion of scrutiny going on. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:29, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree that . I'll go further than GN and say that in addition, – gnu's evidence is strong, I'll add some minor things (I'll focus on the two active ones):
 * Scowiki does not have a lot of editors; the xwiki activity is distinctive, especially considering that there's overlap over there as well
 * JC reversed a draftification, while AFS argued in favour of the article's suitability for mainspace on the talk page
 * The translation patterns, particularly their timing, as pointed out by gnu57, make this even more suspicious
 * Summaries – only a few are very distinctive, but they become meaningful in sum
 * "abt"
 * "Add WPAFC project banner" (AFS/M only)
 * "trim" and variants
 * "rmv"
 * "Adding info"
 * Side clauses in parentheses
 * "Reflecting source" and variants
 * Semicolons
 * Spaced single hyphens (JC and AFS only)
 * Since it seems undisputed that, and I believe the sum of behavioural indicators combined with the CU data is enough to establish a connection between the unblocked three, that means that all of these accounts are evading – that's in addition to the ample overlap between them. All three ; I have not evaluated the connection between all the other listed accounts, so I'll leave the tagging for someone else. Regards, --Blablubbs (talk) 11:23, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * My guess is if this hasn't been picked up after 2 months, it's not going to be, so I'm going to close it. If somebody wants to dig into it more and add some tags, they're free to do that at any time. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Resubmitted Draft:Fortune & Freedom with Nigel Farage created by blocked sock. Account was created on March 14th, the same day AFreshStart was blocked and they have similarities on their user pages along with QueenofBithynia editing pages created by AFreshStart such as (Mu (magazine), Alex Clare-Young, Friends, Families and Travellers among others. S0091 (talk) 17:40, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * There are some of the exact same IPs cropping up as appear in the CU logs for AFreshStart et al; article overlap seals the deal. There may be some other accounts involved - give me a minute.  Girth Summit  (blether)  18:47, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, I've done some poking around. There are some accounts I'm rather suspicious off that are editing on the same IPs within fairly short periods of time as QoB (like, hours rather than days), but their editing interests aren't quite a close enough match for me to be confident, and they might be using shared devices in a place of work, library or similar. Come back if you see any other accounts showing an interest in these articles. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:57, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Noting that I'm tagging as a sock of AFreshStart, purely because there seemed to be some doubt in the archive about connecting the sock to this master. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:58, 3 November 2022 (UTC)