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12 August 2015

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&oldid=675746646

Netherlands IP intentionally removing facts from pfSense wiki page. pfSense official hardware is available from their store, this is not a advertisement as it's not linking any direct links to hardware. It is merly a information that pfSense offers their own hardware (because it wasn't like that for many years) I suspect this is intentionally being done by someone from OPNsense project, which is a fork of pfSense project with questionable intentions. The OPNsense developers are from Netherlands. Interestingly, this edit happened right after user Netfitch also removed the same information https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&oldid=675736379

Another givaway is that user "netfitch" seems to be main developer from OPNsense, who often uses handles like Fitch, @fitchitis which comes from his last name Fitchner. Same user is also doing more sock-puppetry on OPNsense deletion "articles for deletion" page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OPNsense

Lastly, I suspect user joswp (Jos Schellevis) who is also from Netherlands, is a owner of company behind OPNsense, person who is extremely biased on OPNsense articles for deletion page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OPNsense Mnlth (talk) 12:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi vanjagenije, thanks for prompt response! Apologies for missing out the diffs, I've never done this before. I hope I am replying to you from the right place.

Here are the diffs chronologically from the start.

1. Netfitch removes "advertising" https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&type=revision&diff=675710666&oldid=675674782 2. Random IP undos it back https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&type=revision&diff=675728694&oldid=675710666 3. Netfitch again removes "advertising" https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&type=revision&diff=675736379&oldid=675728694 4. I notice it and undo his "advertising" removal https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&type=revision&diff=675744655&oldid=675736379 5. IP from Netherlands adds it back https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&type=revision&diff=675746646&oldid=675744655 6. I undo it to original https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PfSense&type=revision&diff=675747046&oldid=675746646

As explained above, I suspect Netfitch is a developer from OPNsense project, while the Netherlands is home of company behind OPNsense. That is why I listed joswp as a suspected puppets sice he is also from Netherlands.

Please let me know if you need any more information or if I posted something wrongfully. --Mnlth (talk) 21:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

User joswp is clearly Jos Schellevis, person behind OPNsense project. He is from Netherlands (just as IP I reported for sockpuppet). If you check his history or links above, I provided factual proof that he works on OPNsense wiki page, including having biased comments to prevent deletion of OPNsense wikipedia page as it shows here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OPNsense

After user netfitch edited parts of pfSense wikipedia page (which is another person I suspect is a OPNsense developer) "someone" from Netherlands IP (the one I reported here) promptly undid my changes as described in step 5 above. I suspect that is joswp, who intentionally did not login in order to repeat what user netfitch did. Hope I made it more clear now.--Mnlth (talk) 23:04, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * EDIT: Okay, so user Mike V found that the IP's are not the same. However, I do agree with meatpuppetry part. Now OPNsense people are recruiting their own contributors to comment "keep" which is by definition meatpuppetry as described here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Meatpuppetry


 * Thanks!--Mnlth (talk) 14:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

edit again to provide link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/OPNsense#OPNsense thanks--Mnlth (talk) 14:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  16:24, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please, explain (using diffs) what does Joswp have to do with this?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:41, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * - to compare two user accounts based on provided evidence.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:24, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Technically the two accounts are ❌. . Meatpuppetry could be possible here. Mike V • Talk 02:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Insufficient evidence for a block. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)