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User was seen creating the John Deguzman article twice, which incidentally, the username of a blocked vandal who keeps on adding the name "JR Deguzman" or "John Ray de Guzman Abad" on two articles before being blocked. The "JR Deguzman" or "John Ray de Guzman Abad" that the blocked user keeps on adding is supposed to be based from Angeles, Pampanga (see edits 1 and 2). User:Lucky Charm adds the "John Deguzman" name on the Governor of Pampanga article (see 3, 4). The IP address was also seen adding the name "John Deguzman" on a game article. (see 5). - WayKurat (talk) 08:09, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Sock and IP blocked. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  13:55, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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Recreated the John Deguzman article, an article about a non-notable "celebrity". This article was created by User:John Deguzman as well as the most recently blocked sock, User:Lucky Charm. - WayKurat (talk) 07:57, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Sock indeffed and tagged. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  19:38, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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The name on his user page and the shows included in the "television credits" of the profile in the user page are synonymous on the behavior of the previously blocked sockpuppets. It may also have the same content on the deleted John Deguzman article. - WayKurat (talk) 03:05, 27 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Adding User:John Ray De Guzman, who has now created the exact same hoax user page as Vin Hood (a fake article about "The Honorable John Ray De Guzman" with nonsense claims and a photo and signature of somebody else). --McGeddon (talk) 12:32, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * was just coming here to say this. Also worth noting that the mostly blank creation in that redirect by JRDG talks about AngUnangMiyson, so I've included yet another user, with uh..let's call them overlapping interests ;) CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  12:49, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Might be worth taking a look at too, even though it's been a month since they last edited, possibly some meat/SPAs?  CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  13:16, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, "Jr abad" mentions a "JR Deguzman Abad" on their user page in the same "Johnny English:Ang Unang Misyon" hoax that John Ray De Guzman was writing about. --McGeddon (talk) 13:23, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ...and User:John Abad was blocked a couple of weeks ago as a vandal-only account. All of their edits were adding "JR Deguzman Abad" to film cast lists. Looks like User:Jr abad is a slightly older account than the current sockmaster. --McGeddon (talk) 13:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The primary difference with Jr abad and the others on this SPI are the edit summaries but I think behaviorally they're probably all related... CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  13:30, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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A clerk might want to move the case to be under Jr abad's name, since he seems to be currently oldest known account. All seem to be active in adding hoaxes about Deguzman, so I've blocked them all. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:58, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ and retagged.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:30, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

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Recreated the JD Productions and Jon De Guzman articles. Both are connected to a certain John Deguzman Abad. - WayKurat (talk) 05:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocking indef and closing.

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Recreated the JD Productions article and added the link on the Kris Aquino article. - WayKurat (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

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 * Blocked. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 14:28, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

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Created an article about a hoax upcoming TV show entitled Today Stars, which curiously produced by "JD Productions", a fake production company associated with User:Jr abad/User:John Deguzman's edits. - WayKurat (talk) 07:50, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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 * per WP:DUCK. Articles and edits removed. John De Guzman Abad and previous variations salted. — Cactus Writer (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:59, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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Created an article about JR Abad under a new title: John D. Abad. - WayKurat (talk) 00:50, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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Pretty obvious one here. Article deleted, sock blocked. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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Duck: minutes after account creation, created John Abad, hoax article about television presenter John Ray D. Abad. Uncle Roy (talk) 03:36, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * Adding to this SPI. This IP was seen adding the name "John Abad" in the Eat Bulaga! article. See 1 for evidence. -WayKurat (talk) 05:28, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Followup on this SPI. The sockpuppet account User:Roger One is still very active. -WayKurat (talk) 02:01, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * I've added and  to the list due to connections with the suspected sock puppet,  - and blocked all three accounts for sock puppetry. Looking at the deleted history of John Abad shows that all three accounts created the article with the same infobox, formatting, code usage, list order, and wording that connect each account together. Definitely sufficient enough similarities that link them together.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   11:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

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as per WP:DUCK just created from article jon abad as recreated and retitle. Oripaypaykim (talk) 12:19, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * If the hoax are retitle and recreation was account about "Governor of Pampanga" as related political actor article. if Jon Abad, John Deguzman and John Ray Deguzman Abad are similar title when he created account on to articles. I'm not sure is going to recreated John Abad Deguzman again. Oripaypaykim (talk) 08:46, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oripaypaykim - Are there other articles or pages that were created other than Jon Abad and User:Jr abad that link these two together? Those two are all I see that potentially may link these accounts...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   09:10, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I though was negative, other articles hoax named "John Deguzman", "John Abad", "John Ray Deguzman Abad" "John de Guzman" or "John De guzman Abad" then these different account. while Jr abad his a create hoax political and actor improved action on the article. I knew had evidence repeatedly recreation article for WP:SALT. Oripaypaykim (talk) 09:53, 18 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Let me help Oripaypaykim on this one. This editor was seen adding the name "John Abad" on several articles related to Pampanga or Philippine TV shows. See 1, 2, 3, 4 for evidence. The editing behavior is consistent on what Jr abad and/or his recently blocked socks are doing. -WayKurat (talk) 10:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * WayKurat - Thanks for stepping in and helping - that's always awesome in my book :-). Okay, let me take a look at the diffs you provided and go from there. Stand by.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   11:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * Oripaypaykim - I see that the username ("Jr abad") is similar to the title of the article that was created by the possible sock puppet (Jon Abad), but I don't see any edits that have content that link the two directly - I need more to go on than just this similarity alone. Are there any edits made by the sock master and possible sock puppet that are similar or the exact same? Do you have diffs? This will be really helpful.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Juan Tolentino is ✅ to at least two previous socks. Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:50, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

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Adds a fictitious Philippine talent agency named "JRA Primetastic Artist" to a couple of Philippine celebrity articles. (see 1, 2) The said fictitious talent agency is curiously "owned" by a certain "John Ray Abad", the name that the sockpuppets keep on adding on previous occasions. (see 3). - WayKurat (talk) 10:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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✅ to previous sock Juan Tolentino. . Doug Weller  talk 10:18, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

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Creation of Johnny English (character), normal MO of JR but also similar disruptive edits to Johnny English 3 like previously blocked sock is also known to create variations of this article, like the previously deleted hoax, Johnny English 3 etc...   CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  15:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

WP:DUCK another evidence that Abad was back. Pluck it, duck it. 209.242.141.28 (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Please compare these two. Sro23 (talk) 21:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ both accounts to previous sock Quennie Davide. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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Same edits on Johnny English movies. Corazon Legaspi recreated the Super Tekla article which is previously created by Kazaro. Rey Two added a hoax production known JRAPP Entertainment a hoax production name which is linked to The Lolas' Beautiful Show. WP:DUCK on me 99.109.85.105 (talk) 03:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * To further strengthen this SPI regarding the mentioned socks, all of them are involved on editing articles related to Johnny English, a giveaway behavior of Jr abad and the previously blocked socks. (see edits from Rowan One, Mister Prime, Lolo Jose and Corazon Legaspi for behavioral evidence). The socks are also seen editing the Carmina Villaroel article. See edits from Lolo Jose, DJ PNE, Rey Two, and Corazon Legaspi for behavioral evidence. -WayKurat (talk) 03:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * .&#32;In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. ~ Rob 13 Talk 02:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * - ~ Rob 13 Talk 13:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The following account is ✅ to a previous sock:
 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other and to the master:
 * . ~ Rob 13 Talk 13:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. GABgab 15:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . ~ Rob 13 Talk 13:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. GABgab 15:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . ~ Rob 13 Talk 13:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. GABgab 15:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . ~ Rob 13 Talk 13:41, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. GABgab 15:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. GABgab 15:12, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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This username has its own evidence itself. Edits on Carmina Villaroel seems to be added by a JR Abad sock. Also please check the IP range as well pinging WayKurat 99.109.85.105 (talk) 22:06, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * Adding J Brosas a possible impersonation of K Brosas please see Jason Francisco for diffs pinging WayKurat to revert J Brosas edits 99.109.85.105 (talk) 01:11, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:18, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * - Vhong Ching is a WP:DUCK - see . Endorsing for sleepers as a previous check revealed several undiscovered socks. Sro23 (talk) 00:31, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * is ✅ to (confirmed to master)
 * is ✅ to

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:44, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * (only three edits out of scores of edits weren't about similar entertainment subjects and previous confirmed socks share the range)
 * What about Vhong Ching and J Brosas? Sro23 (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, those are confirmed in the same ranges with other socks in the archive also.


 * Round 2
 * , are ✅ to

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:27, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * - I'm not sure what to think about all these accounts; it must be a large range. Most of them have no edits, and the ones that have edited appear behaviorally distinct from both each other and Jr abad socks, so most likely they are all different people. However, Vhong Ching and J Brosas clearly are Jr abad, please block those two. Sro23 (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sro23 - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:01, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:22, 28 October 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:04, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Tagged, closing. Sro23 (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I've just cu blocked the three precise matches that were missed prior to closing. Both of you, please review the socks in the archive and then compare again. "and the ones that have edited appear behaviorally distinct from both each other and Jr abad socks" <== Huh?....please study this case more closely and then let's get a bit of analysis so we can discuss. I'm wondering what just happened here.
 * Berean Hunter - I remember seeing similar contributions between these two accounts that appeared similar to other accounts that have been blocked as sock puppets of Jr abad (namely the edits made to the same articles such as Johnny English (film series) and others). But looking through the archives and the similarities and original evidence submitted that linked earlier socks to the master (the recreation of the same articles or similar articles) - I definitely see your point here. I think that over time, the evidence supplied has slowly skewed from being from obvious recreations of the same articles to edits that establish A --> B that are similar to C, who is blocked as a sock account. I think this may have led to an inadvertent disconnect from the big picture here. Because these blocks are being called into question, I am unblocking the two accounts until there is agreement established that they should be blocked. I'll follow up with more details...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:46, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Unblock? What? Oshwah, you've lost me.
 * Berean Hunter - Maybe I'm the one whose lost, not you ;-). Are you calling into question the two blocks that I made to the accounts in this SPI? Or are you asking that we go through this list of possible sock puppets because you believe that we haven't caught them all? I thought that your response here was questioning those blocks...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:57, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Your blocks are spot on. :) I believe that the behavioral evidence needs inspected and there are unblocked socks based on behavior.
 * Berean Hunter - HA! Okay. That makes a lot more sense now :-). Sure; I'll be happy to give the listed accounts another pass and do some more digging :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:17, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

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Well, Jr abad socks are most known for creating hoaxes regarding Filipino pop culture (actors, actresses, movies/tv shows, stuff like that), and there's also a particular focus on the Johnny English (film series). Here goes my analysis: So while everyone here may share a general interest in entertainment, each user seems to have their own specific area of interest. I noticed these users have very little intersection with both Jr abad sockpuppets and with each other. The fact that most of these accounts are much older than the sockmaster further makes me question that these are all socks. Sro23 (talk) 01:16, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Khendygirl - Note the account age is much older than Jr abad. I'm seeing some cross-over with socks, but it's very little.
 * Jolosborlaza - Focus on Filipino pop idols and singers. Edits are mostly mobile, which is in line with past socks, but I don't think I see any intersection with Jr abad.
 * DashCrafterxX - Again note the account age, which is older than the sockmaster. Edits are mostly mobile, which is in line with past socks, but 1. I'm not seeing any intersection with previous socks and 2. This account uses edit summaries and as far as I can tell Jr abad almost never does that.
 * Quasar74 - Again note account age. There's seems to be a focus on Miss Universe 2017, which overlaps with Khendygirl, but I see nothing in common with Jr abad.
 * Totodilefan30 - Again note account age. Seems the only thing the account has ever done was edit List of Eat Bulaga! segments, so no overlap with Jr abad or anyone else here.
 * Jabechrowen - Again...note account age. Long-term contributer. Focus here seems to be on Kpop and Korean pop culture. Not seeing anything in common with Jr abad.
 * Ayeespino - The main focus is on The Voice (TV series) which I've never seen Jr abad touch before.
 * The rest of the accounts have not edited. There's nothing to analyze.
 * Notice Jr abad's last three edits to a certain article and she was in "Eat Bulaga! 's Little Miss Philippines". Same for Spider_monkey. Totodilefan30...that's all they are. Subject overlap. Here is another blocked sock where that is all they edited. I know Jr abad has his sig that he likes to throw in but they overlap in subject.


 * Account age means nothing. You might connect to older or not. [] may be the older accounts for some of the above as they may overlap ranges.


 * I guess everyone in the Philippines must edit the same subjects. Pop TV entertainment. There is almost nothing else there then. No video games, fights, history, soccer games, foods, animals...normal stuff. Just a concentration of GMA television subjects...and very particular ones at that. Teen pagents, boy bands...

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:57, 28 October 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  11:28, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, maybe I'm wrong. would you please have a look. Maybe, I should leave Filipino TV cases alone. :)
 * All of the Jr abad socks that were discovered since this vandal began edits a certain article related to Johnny English. The Filipino TV articles is just an add-on behavior. They usually create an article about a fictitious movie or TV production studio named after a certain "JR de Guzman Abad" and adds the name of that studio on a number of Philippine TV articles. To date, the Jr abad socks now concentrate on the Carmina Villaroel and Zoren Legaspi articles. Maybe I should create an WP:LTA page for this one for admins as guide for Jr abad's behavioral edits now that he is now creating a lot of sock accounts lately. -WayKurat (talk) 05:36, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you WayKurat and Sro23 for the analysis. I considered that he may compartmentalize some of his activities under different accounts as some sockmasters are fond of doing rather than looking for straight duck edits. There is a good deal of subject overlap but with the three confirmed accounts blocked and tagged, I'll go ahead and close. Going forward, I'm likely to limit response to perfect technical matches only.

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He's adding again an certain JR de Guzman Abad names under the new account (Jak Robert) WP:DUCK on me. 99.109.85.105 (talk) 06:47, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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see User:Rey Moon only creation and it contains more hoaxy-JE stuff + Guzman crap. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  16:21, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Plus found some older unblocked accts. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  16:28, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * See Elle's userpage which mentions both Romeo Librada and Tekla. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  16:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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Rey Moon is on a range with a million vandals; has already blocked that range, and I blocked Rey Moon for the quacking. I also blocked a vandal on that range, but it's not your guy, I think. Obviously that one account is old, and the other, that Elle account, is also not your guy, I think. (Hey, that sounds repetitive.) Drmies (talk) 03:27, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't see the point in blocking old/stale accounts. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 23:26, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Duck: recreated John De Guzman at JR De Guzman, with a history of hoax film article creation. The Mighty Glen (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  02:01, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * - Between the username, and the recreated article, . Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeffed with tag. Closing.

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Recreated the Super Tekla article for the fourth time now he's editing the Johnny English Strikes Again article. I know the master. He's obsessed in editing Super Tekla or Johnny English articles and about the Governor of Pampanga and creating the certain JR de Guzman Abad articles. Requesting CU for evidence. 99.109.85.105 (talk) 01:19, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * - . I don't think CU is necessary. Please indef. Sro23 (talk) 17:30, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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Repeated defiance on Johnny English franchise I think it is most likely be a JR Abad sock been already accused on uploading Johnny English titlecard, Eat Bulaga, Tekla, fictional JRA owned artist agencies, owned JRA production companies, hoaxish shows or Pinoy celebrities. I'm obsessed on certain John Ray de Guzman Abad names. Please check for evidence. 99.109.85.105 (talk) 15:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Looks like the Super Tekla article recreated for the fifth time. Maybe an admin can look on vandal for evidence, CU requested. 99.109.85.105 (talk) 04:19, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to the archive. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 04:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * - Please indef the sock. Sro23 (talk) 23:41, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Sro23 - ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:42, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Passes WP:DUCK for Johnny English, Mamma Mia, Eat Bulaga!, Governor of Pampanga, Super Tekla, Artist Center, etc. Request CU for evidence. 2600:6C4E:580:46B:0:E653:2549:B879 (talk) 03:14, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

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 * Archive looks stale to me. In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 22:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * , blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

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Ducked again on Johnny English-related articles, Eat Bulaga!, hoax artists, Pampanga, fake artist agencies and etc. Passes WP:DUCK for evidence. 2600:6C4E:580:A:E4BF:431D:7E05:1713 (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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✅ to previous socks. Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

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Quack again. A fictional Kambilan party-list, Eat Bulaga!, Super Tekla, Johnny English related articles and Philippine election related articles. Please ask the admin for evidence. 2600:6C4E:580:A:557D:AD9:C3A1:4B80 (talk) 01:50, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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John Cooler is ✅ to. . — Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)