Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Juice3kh/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

 * 1) Incredibly similar EIU despite the fact that both users have very few edits
 * 2) Based on their edits, both clearly have a special relation to Sunni Islam. For example, Juice3kh was obsessed on portraying the Safavid conversion of its Sunni inhabitants as brutal as possible (eg ), compare it to Galaxy21ultra's edits.
 * 3) At Ibn Karram, both edited the same info about Ibn Taymiyya.
 * 4) Look at Galaxy21ultra's second edit, this is not the edit of a newbie, look at the formatting
 * 5) Once again, Galaxy21ultra edited the very same info added by Juice3kh
 * 6) At Ibn Furak, both edited the same info about him being poisoned
 * 7) Literally after commenting here, they asked "What's a sock?", despite the name of this investigation and whatnot. I think this is a clear attempt at feigning ignorance. This random comment too: "Also what's an SPI?"
 * 8) Galaxy21ultra went to the very same admin who indeffed Juice3Kh, where they feigned ignorance and innocence . Can't be a coincidence, probably because that's the only admin they know.
 * 9) Extremely similar WP:NPA/WP:ASPERSIONS by both users, and written to me very randomly too
 * you seem to try and gatekeep all Iran related topics, esp religion related. Are you pushing an Iranian nationalist atheist agenda? - Galaxy21ultra
 * We very likely have a biased ethno-nationalist on our hands who tries to monopolise any edits on Iran related topics. - Juice3kh


 * EDIT: Sigh, the fact that the data of a user disappears after some time might be the silliest and most counter productive thing. Socking is too easy in Wikipedia. Anyhow, the EIU and diffs (I've added a lot more now) more than demonstrates that they are the same person. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:03, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * EDIT 2, just for safety measure: Both Galaxy21ultra and Juice3kh   claim that they are being "bullied" after they got blocked. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:40, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
 * Sorry I have no clue what you are talking about? Why is there an investigation on me? There is no evidence of the claims you make. Why are you trying to block me when I have had nothing but great and inclusive interactions with everyone on Wiki? I am new to this site Galaxy21ultra (talk) 22:12, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * There is no evidence? What are those diffs then? HistoryofIran (talk) 22:15, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding you point "There is no evidence? What are those diffs then? HistoryofIran (talk) 22:15, 9 June 2023 (UTC)"
 * I edit a wide range of wiki articles,esp regarding grammer and spelling mistakes. These pages are of significant interest to MANY people. Hence it is not surprising many people have the same interests as above and try to edit the same pages. Now can we go back to the Saffardi dynasty page and fix the edit war YOU started? Galaxy21ultra (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Also the fact that @HistoryOfIran keeps removing sourced information that I found, and then allegedly gaslights me by saying I am causing an edit war? When said person is removing sourced academic infomation (which he cherry picks as stated on his page). As I am new to wiki, what are the rules for alleged bulling if any? Galaxy21ultra (talk) 22:15, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @HistoryofIran Why are you trying to cause an edit war? And when I added a topic on your page to discuss the matter more deeply, you deleted it from your page? And at the same time you then have been trying to block me from wiki? All this over a well sourced reference that I provided and you removed? This is not great behaviour I must say. I am going to keep opening a talk box on your page to get to the bottom of the Saffarid Dynasty debate instead of the edit war you started. Galaxy21ultra (talk) 22:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Not falling for it, this SPI was created long before. Please dont go off topic. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:28, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You are going off topic, Why have you started an edit war with me by deleting a well sourced reference? Galaxy21ultra (talk) 22:30, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Also what's an SPI? Galaxy21ultra (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I came here to report Galaxy21ultra for nearly identical editing pattern as the blocked account Juice3kh, and I glad to see that I'm not the only editor to have observed the same. Anyhow, there's a number of similarities between the two accounts: both focus on the same subject area (Muslim religious biographies), both heavily promote Sunni Islam, both seem to edit in the US time zone, and both use nearly identical style in edit summaries. Moreover, both give a strong impression of not being new editors, as neither account started their Wikipedia adventure in a fashion typical to new users, however I can't figure out who they may be. I think that checkuser would have offered a helpful hint, esp. as regards geolocation. — kashmīrī  TALK  07:14, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi I would like to report you too edit warring. You are removing authentic sources which state the contrary of your agenda. If we have the Cambridge companion for Islamic theology stating otherwise, how are you trying to refute that? I will be reporting you. The page has been fine for a while before you and  Agrso  started place your own opinion on the page. As stated:The sources clearly state sufism is mainly a Sunni phenomenon. If you read further down the pages info, one would have realised the Shia equivalent of mysticism is mentioned under IRFAN
 * What don't you get about this? Galaxy21ultra (talk) 18:26, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As I am new to this, wiki states the following from Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance:
 * If an accusation on this page is "bad faith" (an editor making a fake case for an "attack" or to prevent their own editing being examined) then you may wish to say so briefly, but cases on this page will be decided based upon evidence of misuse of accounts only. You do not have to defend yourself against other claims, however bad, or engage in discussion about them. You may wish to note that the claim is not relevant to sock puppetry. Claims and issues that are not relevant to account and IP abuse will almost always be ignored by the clerks and checkusers, and will often be removed.
 * Considering you @kashmiri seem to be making false claims (for which there is no evidence of) to try and hide the fact you have been removing sourced information and you were caught doing so. It is a shame that as I am new to Wiki, I do not know what sockpuppeting is or how to request a block for vandalism. However you trying to add onto a baseless claim to hide you own bad faith edits says a lot about the agenda you have on certain pages. Many people are interesting in the topic of Islam, making false equivalences with other bad users without evidence is disingenuous. The US time zone is MASSIVE and 'nearly identical style in edit summaries' is hugely subjective. I please ask you kindly, lets take this back to your talk page to discuss your removal of authentic sources from the Cambridge Companion of Islamic Theology. Galaxy21ultra (talk) 19:15, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * While ignoring Galaxy21ultra's content complaints, I'm starting to believe that they are a different editor than Juice3kh. This is based solely on the differences in the command of English of both accounts. However, not being a native speaker myself, I'd suggest someone else to make that call. — kashmīrī  TALK  20:03, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems anyone who disagrees with my edits, despite using sources, tries to have me banned by suggesting I am the same person of another banned user. This is is completely disingenuous and a low ball tactic to ban editors you disagree with or have a personal grudge against. I thank you that you are now thinking otherwise. Galaxy21ultra (talk) 21:17, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Galaxy21ultra: You must stop your continuous personal attacks now . — kashmīrī  TALK  21:33, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Master is stale, and you've presented no evidence that sleepers may be sleeping. Katietalk 15:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * blocked indefinitely for using Wikipedia as a battleground. There was a report at WP:ANEW by Galaxy21ultra that made me have a look at their contributions. No comment on the sockpuppetry concern. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:36, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No evidence found of socking due to factors noted below. Galaxy has subsequently been blocked for conduct issues, rendering this moot.  Star   Mississippi  13:40, 15 July 2023 (UTC)