Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Juliano202/Archive

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(I know Checkuser can't connect the IP address, but I include it for behavioural examination).

This started with User:Juliano202 removing apparently dead links from CESNUR and from Massimo Introvigne (the founder and MD of CESNUR) - here and here respectively. Archive versions of the links were easy to find (one was already there and was removed), so I fixed them up.

They then went on to tagging CESNUR (eg here) without explaining the tags, nominated it for speedy deletion as WP:G11 (here), tried to PROD the article multiple times for invalid reasons (eg here), and eventually nominated it for deletion at Articles for deletion/CESNUR which resulted in a resounding Keep. (User:Aidayoung's mention of a Facebook post in that discussion is particularly disturbing.)

Turning to Massimo Introvigne, User:5.101.5.103 started a criticism section here, consisting of two accusations from two journalists made in 2001 - clearly cherry-picked and WP:UNDUE with no attempt to provide balance. User:Aidayoung did some work and produced what I see as a well-blanced "Views of his work" section. The IP removed that work and reinstated the one-side Criticism section again - here. User:KrakatoaKatie semi-protected the article.

With the IP not able to edit, User:Juliano202 came back again and reinstated the IP's disputed Criticism section here, and then after the protection expired the IP returned again to reinstate the Criticism section - here.

Finally User:Serge Garde was created and re-added a Criticism section which included only the accusations made by journalist Serge Garde - here. It's not the same text as the original version, but it's saying essentially the same thing. I've blocked User:Serge Garde as a possible impersonation username.

It seems pretty much certain to me that User:Juliano202 and User:5.101.5.103 are the same person, and also likely that User:Serge Garde is too - and even if User:Serge Garde is genuinely the journalist in question and not actually the same person as User:Juliano202, there's at least some WP:MEAT collusion going on, and it is not acceptable for him to use the Wikipedia article to publicize his own personal criticism of a BLP subject.

I think a proper sock check would be beneficial here, and it would make it easier to deal with any new suspected socks. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:03, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

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It is improbable that the user is really journalist and playwright Serge Garde. The real Garde would not make the spelling mistakes ("Introvinier") that appeared here. Since the sentences are the same that appeared in the parallel Russian entry (unfortunately I do not know Russian well enough to make changes) it is probable that all the suspected sock puppets are the same Russian guy who is reacting against Introvigne's criticism of the Russian "liquidation" of Jehovah's Witnesses Aidayoung (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  12:22, 16 June 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:05, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * - to discern between meats and socks and find sleepers if any.
 * ✅. No other accounts seen.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:54, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Tagging and closing.