Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jurriaan/Archive

31 March 2015

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Block evasion: user:Jurriaan blocked for personal attacks on user:bobrayner, immediately logged out and continued attacking as user:212.64.48.162. Guy Macon (talk) 20:33, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Clear WP:DUCK case, stable IP address which edits the same topic areas as Jurriaan, returned from prior dormancy to harass editor Jurriaan was in conflict with as soon as Jurriaan was blocked. I've gone ahead and blocked the IP for a year.  Checkusers won't positively tag an IP to a username for privacy reasons, but this is pretty straightforward WP:DUCK case.  If he comes back, let us know.  Otherwise, this case can probably be closed.  -- Jayron 32 21:46, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing. Mike V • Talk 03:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Jurriaan and confirmed socks (212.64.48.162, Jurriaan2) are the top editors by edit count for three niche articles:
 * 1) Tendency of the rate of profit to fall (note how the top users both incorrectly mark 95%+ of their edits as "minor")
 * 2) Value-form
 * 3) Fuzzy concept

Jurriaan and 212.64 were blocked in 2015. Jurriaan2 was created and blocked in August 2017.

Cambridge Optic (CO) was created in February 2018 and immediately starts editing those same three articles.

What caught my eye is this quote from CO on Talk:Tendency of the rate of profit to fall: "That happened with many articles which I piloted, I regret to say: no only do they look much worse now, than when I first wrote them, they now also contain numerous unsupported claims which are plainly false." (emphasis mine)

Cambridge Optic has been brought to ANI and blocked for personal attacks—the same reason why Jurriaan was blocked. Pinging, who was ironically party to both discussions.

Both Jurriaan and Cambridge Optic complained about amateurs "messing up" their work:
 * "I would appreciate it if, from now on, super-radical amateur nincompoops with no real understanding of the literature refrained from messing with the article." Jurriaan on Talk:Tendency of the rate of profit to fall
 * "A lot of wiki's have been ruined, because editors who have no genuine competence, experience or knowledge about the subject-matter jump in and start "improving" things so that the articles become a mess of nonsense." "s/he has no competence in the subject whatever, and just wants to mess with the article." CO on same talk page

Both have written wall-of-text screeds on Talk:Tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

Both put special emphasis on their academic backgrounds:
 * "I have not been an academic now for 22 years, I spent that time in the workforce, though I have worked also as academic editor and translator of books and articles" Jurriaan's talk page
 * "I have about 40 years experience with Marxian and heterodox economics, I studied and worked at university for ten years, I worked four years as government statistician, as well as having other jobs such as library education officer, government archivist, documentalist, recordmanager, academic translator/editor, news editor and social science researcher." CO on Talk:Tendency of the rate of profit to fall

czar 08:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * . . NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)