Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KWV House of Brandy/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
SPA, editing only Draft:KWV House of Brandy. Account registered a few days after was blocked. Seems ducky. DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:17, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * SOCK or MEAT; blocked and tagged.  Girth Summit  (blether)  10:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Another SPA editing only Draft:KWV House of Brandy. Account registered a few weeks after previous sock was blocked. If it's not the same individual behind these accounts, it must be at least someone from the same business, picking up where the blocked users left off. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm sure it is UPE. But when the original account got blocked, and they set up a new one, and that got blocked, and they (so I'm alleging) set up a new one, isn't that still puppetry of either sock or meat type? I can't imagine this business having such a big digital marketing (or whatever) team that they wouldn't be aware of their colleagues having previously tried and failed to get this draft through. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, no worries; thanks @Izno. I've already posted a COI query on their talk page, let's see if and how they respond to that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 20:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * I'd guess this is more likely a case of WP:UPE and not necessarily specifically socking. Izno (talk) 14:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No, the distinction I'm making here from socking is that UPE is often individual contractors on random pay-for-work websites (e.g. fiverr). The character of the written drafts/articles doesn't appear to be similar in the slightest, and the authors of those articles don't appear to have a similar tone in their editing/writing, which would be typical signs of socking. That doesn't rule it out, but does put it less in SPI's court and more in COIN's court as a product of UPE. Izno (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe SOCK, maybe MEAT (I checked given the age of the account; the data would fit either option), certainly coordinating for promotional purposes. Blocked as suspected, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 17:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)