Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KahnJohn27/Archive

22 February 2016

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User:KahnJohn27 was edit-warring at Muhammad Iqbal but was blocked by Tide rolls. As soon as he was blocked and his edit was reverted at Muahmmad Iqbal, he makes this edit while asking for an unblock, please note the date and time 14:01, 21 February 2016 (UTC), then User:Lakhbir87 appears at Muhammad Iqbal and continues the edit-war while claiming that he is an unrelated editor and that he agrees with KahnJohn, note the date and time for that edit, 14:16, 21 February 2016, just fifteen minutes after KahnJohn27 complains that his edit is once again reverted. Please check the summary lines for KahnJohn27 and Lakhbir87's edits at Muhammad Iqbal, they look quite similar, complaining about irrational reasons and Lakhbir87 appearance on that article all of sudden and supporting KahnJohn27 so vigorously is fishy in itself. Also going after two admins (Tide rolls and Drmies) who got involved in this quarry and pursuing it so vigorously at the ANI. Both users are highly disruptive and extreme edit-warriors and do not understand policy on edit-warring, they can be seen making similar claims regarding edit-warring that they only made 2 reverts or it will only be edit-warring if they will continuously and repeatedly revert. Relative discussions mentioned below involving KahnJohn27 and Lakhbir87 hint a clear WP:QUACK:

 Sh eri ff  |  ☎ 911  | 14:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Talk:Muhammad Iqbal
 * 2) User talk:Tide rolls
 * 3) User talk:Tide rolls
 * 4) User talk:Tide rolls
 * 5) User talk:Tide rolls
 * 6) User talk:Lakhbir87
 * 7) User talk:KahnJohn27
 * 8) User talk:KahnJohn27
 * 9) User talk:Justice007
 * 10) User talk:Justice007
 * 11) Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (Another editor on this ANI agrees that there is strong quacking and sock-puppeteering involved here)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' This SPI complaint only seems to me to be User:SheriffIsInTown's revenge for reverting his editing and then mentioning his reverts at Administrator noticeboard/Incident. Also please look at Sherrif's reverts at this history of the Muhammad Iqbal (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muhammad_Iqbal&action=history), his comment to me at talk page of article Muhammad Iqbal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Muhammad_Iqbal#The_false_version) and his comment at my ANI complaint (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Tide_rolls_and_Muhammad_Iqbal). Also please notice that this user seems to get provocative and agressive upon questioning something about Pakistani personalities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Vaibhav.times_has_joined_wikipedia_to_promote_the_website_skjbollywoodnews.) and his user page says he's a Pakistani, so I definitely suspect that his actions are influenced because of his nationality especially me having reverted his edit on an article about Muhammad Iqbal. Lakhbir87 (talk) 15:19, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Alas, my user page provides these edit-warriors and sock-puppeteers an easy scapegoat, it has now become an habit for me, i kind of expect "the accusation of being a Pakistani" coming as soon as i report some one. Please do not pay heed to this and no, i was not being provocative or aggressive in any way, i dealt with that user and i expressed my observation about him as they were and they definitely were expressed in a different way by the editor who opened that ANI so it was definitely not only me but another editor as well who felt that that editor was actually working for some website. I think we should refrain from being opportunistic and linking two different matters together as you did here.  Sh eri ff  |  ☎ 911  | 15:28, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Somehow, the block template is not showing up on User:KahnJohn27 and neither edit history shows any edit after 29 December 2015.  Sh eri ff  |  ☎ 911  | 15:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you mean with this comment about edit history. Whose edit history? Drmies (talk) 15:54, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * CU run based on behavioral evidence. Editor was careful but slipped. Both blocked indefinitely for socking, edit warring, and generally making a nuisance of themselves. If editor hadn't been so combative the master might have gotten away with a temporary block. Drmies (talk) 15:33, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

20 March 2016

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One part of the above evidence was mentioned in the edit summary of @JimRenge, while reverting the last edit of @AkhtarHussain83. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 17:19, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Affected Sikhism article is Guru Arjan.
 * 2) @KahnJohn27 added this content and edit warred over it in January 2016.
 * 3) @KahnJohn27 was blocked after WP:SPI on February 22. Was also blocked for edit warring.
 * 4) @SiddharthSunny is a new account, opened on February 25, restored the content added by @KahnJohn27, edit-warred over it with multiple editors, and is under a 36 hour block. @SiddharthSunny precociously knows all wikipedia rules and quotes it in edit summary soon after opening the account.
 * 5) @AkhtarHussain83 is also a new account, opened on March 14, restored the same content of @KahnJohn27, giving similar reasons.
 * 6) The edit warring style seem similar for the three accounts, in reasons and style: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


 * Adding IP 59.89.101.38. See. But this may be a stale IP now. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 19:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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Add User:Tocic45 diff. Joshua Jonathan  -  Let's talk!   19:30, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * And User:Js82 again, per User:User_pm22 and diff.  Joshua Jonathan   -  Let's talk!   19:32, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I was recently informed of this. So it seems she is trying to stifle me and other users through accusations of sockpuppet of other people. SiddharthSunny (talk) 19:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * @JJ has a keen memory. I looked into the edit history. The @Js82 allegations from January 2016 and just opened account @Tocic45's and @SiddharthSunny's filing is a cut and paste match. Looks like an obvious case of WP:SOCK and WP:MEAT. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 20:12, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

So now you're saying I'm Js42's ot Tociic45's sock account? By the way, everything Tociic45 said about you is true. You have been given warnings for your uncivil behaviour and edit-warring by others as well in the past. Your claims of my filing being "copy-and-paste" are not going to help you get exonerated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiddharthSunny (talk • contribs) 20:24, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * Both accounts have been blocked indefinitely. The IP provided made a related edit a month ago, so that's a bit too stale for blocking. Mike V • Talk 17:03, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

18 April 2016
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 * The following accounts are Confirmed:
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 * is Technically indistinguishable. Behavioural evidence needs evaluation.

@Vanjagenije:, @Bbb23: Please revise, if I got the format/protocol wrong. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 13:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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Cpt.a.haddock had filed and then withdrawn an SPI against Maestro2016, treating Bazaan as sockmaster. Though Cpt.a.haddock's suspicions were correct, that this account edited only movies articles for some months and then after over a year of inactivity, he started editing Indian Medieval history mostly concerning Maratha-Mughal articles and his edits have serious issues.

Now after reviewing history of one such article and already familiar with the sockmaster, I think it is really impossible to have two persons that have great interest not only in same Indian Muslim rulers, Bollywood films, Bollywood Muslim actors, but even a completely different subject like List of best-selling video games.

Yes Maestro2016 has made dozens of edits on List of best-selling video games, for updating the list, which is similar to edits of KahnJohn27, who also made dozens of edits there. Though some edits were only made for renaming the entries. (Maestro2016, KahnJohn27)

Maestro2016 was created on 27 February, after KahnJohn27 was blocked indefinitely for socking on 22 February.

Maestro2016 and KahnJohn27 (KJ) have edited many same articles. Naming only some where behavioral evidence is undeniable:


 * Dislike for the word "atrocities" on Tipu Sultan article. KJ, Maestro
 * Salman Khan's religion. Maestro, KJ
 * Editing this article's infobox. Maestro, KJ


 * Aamir Khan's "On Intolerance" section. Maestro, KJ
 * Demographics of India. Maestro (too many), KJ
 * Has researched on Sher Shah Suri. KJ wrote about Suri on main article, while Maestro wrote similar material about him on a different article.
 * Tughlaq dynasty. Maestro, KJ

Writing styles are same as well. Same attitude of edit warring until blocked or page protected. And avoid using talk page, use of edit summaries for discussion instead. "edit-warring": Maestro, KJ, and always finishes the edit summaries with a full stop: Maestro, KJ, frequently saying "ridiculous"(Maestro2016(, KJ,).

Like KJ socks, Maestro also avoid putting colons while writing on talk pages.

KahnJohn27 made 45 edits on List of highest-grossing films, and initiated a huge discussion about dealing with "box office gross" on Template talk:Infobox film, while Maestro2016 has also edited List of highest-grossing films and made a few hundreds of edits on List of highest-grossing Indian films in overseas markets, List of highest-grossing Indian films, List of highest-grossing films in India.


 * D4iNa4 (talk) 05:02, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

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❌. See also Sockpuppet investigations/MariaJaydHicky/Archive. Closing with no action.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:38, 6 December 2017 (UTC)