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On December 9th Kansascitt1225 would make the first of what would be dozens of similar edits across the Kansas City topic. Primarily on Kansas City, Missouri, Johnson County, Kansas, and Kansas City, Kansas, the last two are currently semi protected due to Kansascitt1225’s activity. The pages Downtown Kansas City, Kansas City metropolitan area, and Overland Park, Kansas have also seen similar but limited action. Other than myself at least five other users have warned Kansascitt1225 and associated acounts about unconstrictive editing:    Although a few edits have been mildly constructive the vast majority of the users edits have been reverted as unsourced, biased, misleading, or false. this is a typical revert edit, the edit summery strongly suggest User:Kansas City 1991 is th same person as Kansascitt1225 along with the associated IPs starting with 2605 that are added the same information. Here is another typical edit introducing false information and removing well referenced material. I believe ever single edit by the alts listed above is to one of a small cross section of top level Kansas City Metropolitan Area and are all similar edits. Also a user at commons that is likely the same based on the name and behavior uploaded one copyrighted image, used in the Johnson County, Kansas article mentioned above. Grey Wanderer (talk) 06:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


 * A new case was opened, same user: Sockpuppet investigations/Midwestman1986. Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * The IP edits are too old. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:56, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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See below. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:26, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Comment - Thanks for the ping, - but I'm not sure why I'd be interested.  I can't recall any interaction with any of these puppets or the sockmaster. But then again, I have a lot of interactions, so maybe I'm missing something.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:05, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It was because you thanked me for this edit.
 * Oh, I see. Thanks for that.  I actually only looked at that article because I got notified that one of my edits had been reverted, which happened when you went back to the last clean version.  Seeing someone do that (sock reverting), always evokes a thanks from me.  But other than that, I've had no interaction with the sock.  Take care, and keep up the good work. Onel 5969  TT me 23:21, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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There are likely more accounts and I haven't finished but I thought I'd go ahead and block these considering there is a related ANI thread. I'll take another look later but any checkuser is invited to jump in.

may be interested in this case.

Blocking the accounts listed. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:49, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * After a little more looking, is also.
 * All accounts now tagged. Closing -- The SandDoctor Talk 19:08, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

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Several days ago I was browsing the Kansas City International Airport page and noticed that the intro was very POV, asserting that the airport "mostly" served Kansas, and in particular Johnson County, citing a study which showed a small majority of vehicles parking at the airport were from Kansas. I did some editing to include the information in the citation but present it in a more neutral way.

The user Historybuff1111 then started arguing with me and kept editing the article to restore the claim that it "mostly" served Kansas and/or Johnson Co. Kansas.

Then today I went and looked at the history of the airport page to see when the part about it "mostly" serving Kansas had been added, and by whom, and saw that it had recently been added by the user Midwestman1986 [[Special:Contributions/2003:CA:8712:CE00:D14A:B684:951A:AAED|2003:CA:8712:CE00:D14A:B684:951A:AAED] (talk) 19:11, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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This is obviously the same user I previously opened a investigation (still open) for at Sockpuppet investigations/Kansascitt1225. Is there a way to merge these complaints? A lot of damage has been done across a wide swathe of article. Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:04, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  10:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you think a merger would be warranted? -- The SandDoctor Talk 01:06, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The cases should be merged.
 * ✅ and closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

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This User appears to be quite dedicated to evading the block. Two new user accounts were created that made a handful of small edits (some nonconstructive) and then were used to make the same edits as the Midwestman previously. this change on Kansas City Union Station returned the page to the previous version by known sock User:Kchistory5. In addition, Midwestman has developed a grudge against me personally as can be seen from their talk page, this diff and edit summery which parodies the phrasing on Johnson County, Kansas that their previous sock's have found objectionable. Most of the other IP edits took place on Cerner and again were generally the same as before. It becomes more obvious if you compare the timestamps, for instance this diff by an anon and this diff by Mountainhikeyclimbin are 4 mins apart. Most of these articles typically go months without editing so it raises suspicion. Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:34, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Support permaban: Midwestman1986 and his socks should be permabanned; further, they should not be allowed to edit their own talk pages. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 23:51, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Everyone except for 75.167.23.92 is blocked, and that IP's edits are too old. Closing. GABgab 10:33, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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Activity continues, same pattern and goals as before. diff, diff, diff, diff I’m sure there’s more out there. I’m not necessary advocating for a block, just tying to leave a record Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:15, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * All blocked, closing. GABgab 10:33, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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Same behavior, mentioned being blocked for sockpuppetry 9 months ago here. Indef'd the account and rangeblocked the IP for a year, requesting CU for sleepers.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  15:11, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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This case is. We don't normally look for other accounts in this scenario. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:54, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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Persistent offender, going on two years. It's the exact same stuff: promoting and inserting Johnson County, Kansas inappropriately and claiming his home has been wronged somehow. diff diff diff. Compare edits to the exhaustive record in his archived cases. I'm sure more diffs are forthcoming and the pages will likely need to be protected. Grey Wanderer (talk) 03:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Almost forgot about these diff, diff, he's also taken to obsessing over me personally. He was blocked once before without any involvement from myself earlier this year and there's a lot more where that came from. Would be really nice to see this dealt with definitively. Grey Wanderer (talk) 04:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Everyone's blocked already. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 06:47, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

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Long term abuser, prolific account creator, and single-issue ax grinder. All previous accounts have been blocked for the same pattern of disruptive editing about Kansas City. A mid term page protection is on Johnson County, Kansas (and many other pages because of this puppetmaster) and this new account has taken up the cause on the talk page. Compare to any of the exhaustive diffs listed in previous cases. There also appears to be some sort of name change, but I can’t find record of the request, which is why I have listed both above. Grey Wanderer (talk) 21:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, GeneralNotability, for your attention. See: diff, diff, diff. You’ll see they have had objections to this specific line repeatedly since 2018, it is one of the reasons that page is current protected. In general, edits are based on a sense that Johnson County has been “wronged” or unfairly overlooked, usually in comparison to Kansas City, Missouri. 99%+ of the edits are trying “correct” this, the other 1% are small edits to autoconfirm new socks. If you need more insight into the intensity with which they approach the issue please skim the edit summaries on any of their accounts, such as: PanamanianBlanco, Midwestman1986, and Kansascitt1225. Also a look at User_talk:Metopolitan90 may help enlighten, there are similar rants across many talk pages including my own.Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Pinging User:Eagles247, as the most recent Administrator to address this. Grey Wanderer (talk) 21:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with the differences between Missouri and Kansas, but typically this person will go ahead and make changes to several Johnon County-related articles without asking on a talk page. I'd wait and see what else this account edits before making a decision on a block. FWIW, the rename log is here, which was performed at meta.wiki. Eagles 24/7 (C)  19:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * . The accounts involved here are all so I'm moving this to the open queue for a behavioural investigation. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * -, there's a lot of stuff in the archive, I'd appreciate if you could help me out here - where have previous socks tried to disassociate Johnson County, KS from Kansas City, MO? GeneralNotability (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks. I see where you're coming from, but I agree with that this looks different from past socks. I also note a difference in how this account writes (not going into too much detail per WP:BEANS) that makes me suspect this isn't the same account. If they start getting more aggressive with their edits or otherwise start matching past accounts more closely, please file a new case and we can take a look, but for now I'm going to err on the side of WP:AGF and leave them be. Closing without action. GeneralNotability (talk) 00:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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  Mvcg66b3r (talk) 21:23, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * The three accounts are obviously the same person. : Do you know if they are this master and/or if they should be tagged? Best, MarioGom (talk) 22:34, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The 131 accounts belong to an LTA who does this on a myriad of talk pages, with targets picked more or less randomly from the pool of open unblock requests; I see no reason to believe that there is any link to Kansascitt1225. There are a couple potential masters for these (Kingshowman, among others), but I don't know for sure, and I don't believe it's worth caring about, especially since there's no point in tagging (and usually no point in checking) these. Closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:50, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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The sockpuppet completely confessed here, here ("I also know now it is not Ok to evade bans or logging out to use your IP address."), here, and again here and here. It's the same sockpuppet investigation rationale as ever listed in this case, because this is user is absolutely robotically obsessively single-minded about Kansas City area statistics. The offender said he knows that he's blocked, has tried and failed to appeal here and a more elaborate confession to abusive behavior here. He has given up in favor of crusading with block evasions.

This is all while playing absolutely helpless, oblivious, and trolling everybody else into his statistics and citations, and making personal attacks or casting aspersions, for silently reverting. has been on this case for years, so check Grey Wanderer's contrib list because most of it recently is just reverting this sockpuppet. It's too many to feasibly list and the reasons are too pointless.

This person is hopping the planet's whole set of IP addresses, so please add page protection to at least these articles and their Talk pages: Johnson County, Kansas, Kansas City metropolitan area, Economy of Kansas City, Overland Park, Kansas. Can some admin please refactor the Talk page here where he trolled a willing troll-bait-biter into the game? I'll await the outcome here before mass-reverting. Thank you! — Smuckola(talk) 05:25, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm adding yet another IP, because he's actually stalking my RfPP request. And here, below. — Smuckola(talk) 03:07, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

I dunno what else to do, so here is the abuser's latest confession to a permanent lifestyle of abuserhood, posted as a WP:SOCKPUPPET and couched as an unblock request. — Smuckola(talk) 21:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Latest WP:SEALION confession: — Smuckola(talk) 03:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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How exactly is trolling? these things are well referenced and neutral. 173.198.159.146 (talk) 06:52, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * - CU cannot be used to check IP addresses. RoySmith (talk) 11:58, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The IP edits are too old. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 12:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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He *always* blithely admits it. Today's WP:SEALION confession is here and in various edit summaries saying "same user here!". You can see in the original SPI archive, I logged the diffs of his explicit confession that he knows he's a sockpuppet, that he is a sockpuppet as a lifestyle by traveling all over town to hop all free wifi systems for the express purpose of IP block evasion, that sockpuppetry became his singular problem on Wikipedia, that sockpuppetry is unconditionally forbidden as the worst abuse on Wikipedia, and that he promised to stop. Countless times. Abuse from the last week into right now has been at Johnson County, Kansas, Overland Park, Kansas, Downtown Kansas City, and Suburbanization as far as I know. He targets all kinds of cities and other subjects within WP:KCMO, for years. Please consider all these edits as one single WP:TENDENTIOUS litany and protect them all. Please block those IP addresses and protect those pages indefinitely. It has never and will never stop, clearly due to some severe illness. I'm a total n00b at SPI but the very fine admin Daniel Quinlan advised me to file a second SPI case. — Smuckola(talk) 07:42, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * The recent IP is now blocked by HJ Mitchell and the earlier IP is... earlier and not necessarily likely to be used again. If block evasion on these pages continues, I suggest WP:AIV or WP:RFPP. Izno (talk) 18:03, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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Another confession from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Kansascitt1225/Archive — Smuckola(talk) 21:39, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Closing per last. Izno (talk) 01:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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I'm very reluctantly requesting a checkuser, and I do not want to have to do this. At the moment, I'm one person against a pathological LTA, with a history of prolific account creation and targeted harassment. I'm including the two most recent already-confessed IPs for documentation. The two named accounts are single purpose and single minded, about Kansas City metro demographics. Duv1995 has only edited one article. Neither respond to the mass correction of their multitudinous rudimental mistakes in literacy, about Wikipedia, and about common sense. Non-US date formatting. Lots of WP:OR. These traits are all the same as Kansascitt, who is currently back on the warpath as a five year nonstop and unrepentant LTA because of his pathological obsession with self-entitlement to WP:OFFER. In his mind, that's the carrot in front of his nose, aside from Wikipedia's open door policy for editing in general. It's not "if", it's "when".

In any case, I propose a ban. I am seconding that suggestion stated years ago in this SPI. There can be no crack in the wall, for the possibility for any future admin to misinterpret anything, to eliminate the concept of WP:OFFER from the abuser's dialog of harassment and begging, and to correctly respond to his endless single-agenda lawless abuse. This laboriously hypervigilant churn has already burned out two very dedicated and talented civic servants including myself. The cost is huge. This is the letter and spirit of WP:SEALION. — Smuckola(talk) 04:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * - Requests for checkuser should contain links to diffs clearly connecting the reported user to a previously blocked sockpuppet, or two reported users to each other. IP edits are not sufficient to establish the above. As both accounts have not edited since the report, I'll close. ST47 (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)