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Kart2409 was indeffed by a while ago, so this is mainly about the suspected master. There are two main reasons I think they are probably related.
 * Kart2409 recreated one of KartikeyaS343's articles; while I don't have the sysop x-ray vision, the fact that it was G4d tells me that the pages were identical.
 * Over their short wikilife, Kart2409 !voted in 5 AfDs. In three of them, KartikeyaS343 was the nominator; in the other two, they voted alongside them., , , , . I have a suspicion there might be UPE involved here. Note the since deleted creations of Luma Health, National Association of Building Contractors and XOR (company by Kartikeya. Blablubbs (talk • contribs) 03:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Kart2409 also recreated an identical XOR article. See . Blablubbs (talk • contribs) 03:36, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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, can you recall if Kart is linked to the Wikibaji sockfarm? If memory serves right, Wikibaji was creating socks to harass Kartikeya at that time.  Java Hurricane  13:59, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And just after that I saw this AfD: a Wikibaji creation tagged for AfD by Kartikeya, and the only other response is from Kart, a "delete per nom". Don't think it is Wikibaji in that case.  Java Hurricane  14:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * see the AfD I've linked. I doubt it is a joe job as Wikibaji was the master harassing Kartikeya at the time, and the article in the AfD is a Wikibaji creation.  Java Hurricane  14:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * First, in the interest of full disclosure, Blablubbs talked to me about this case before filing. Kart2409's recreation of Luma Health is word-for-word identical to the last version by Kartikeya. Likewise, Kart2409 did a word-for-word identical recreation of XOR (company). Both look like promo pieces. Between that and the sheer amount of overlap between these two (multiple AfDs, one tagging an article COI and the other coming by the same article as UPE a week later, Kart2409 draftifying an article with the justification "KartikeyaS343" (???) when Kartikeya had draftified the article a day before) means that this is in full-on territory. Kartikeya ; Kart2409 is long stale but I'd appreciate a sleeper check if possible. Courtesy ping  since you sock-blocked Kart2409 originally. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:45, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm, yes. This is of relevance: Sockpuppet investigations/B-Factor (filed by KartikeyaS343). I recall possibly competing accounts or some such, and I also recall concluding that KartikeyaS343, while the crossover was incredibly suspicious, was probably not the same person as either Kart2409 or B-Factor. Technically, that remains my opinion. Here and now, there is a possibly related, possibly unrelated account, which I'll note for behavioural evaluation and/or future reference: Alexanew. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:21, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, courtesy ping for MER-C. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:33, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , are you thinking that Kart2409 could be a joe job? The AfD overlap can certainly be explained by joe-jobbing, but recreating the article word-for-word identical to the previous version would require a decent amount of advance planning that we don't often see. If they're technically unrelated, I'd be inclined to think meatpuppetry rather than framing. And re Alexanew, agree that it looks unrelated. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It's possible. I've seen better joe-jobs, but there is definitely some conflict going on somewhere. I will note that B-Factor, who looks a bit like Wikibaji to me (see all contribs and logs) was trying to get both Kart accounts blocked. I may have to do a deep dive into the CU logs, but I'm not hopeful and I recall getting nowhere last time (hence Kart2409's block log reason). -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:44, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Special:Undelete/Draft:National Association of Building Contractors was originally created by KartikeyaS343 in mainspace, then overwritten by first person spam a couple of days later, deleted, then recreated 2x by likely UPE sock and nominated for deletion by likely Wikibaji sock . I too share the suspicion that Wikibaji was harassing a competitor. See also User talk:KartikeyaS343. MER-C 16:49, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , if you also think this is a joe job or whatever I won't object to an unblock...or converting this to a UPE block. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The primary block reason should be UPE. MER-C 19:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Very well. I've converted this to a UPE block and there is ongoing discussion on Kartikeya's talk page. I think we can close. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC)