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12 December 2015

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Kashmiri is an alleged sock of GorgeCustersSabre & possible meat puppet of MezzoMezzo

I first came across GorgeCusterSabre when he supported MezzoMezzo and another User Sakimonk Sakimonk is a severe POV pusher who was almost banned for his edits at ANI   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misdemenor (talk • contribs) 23:41, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

GorgeCustersSabre and Kashmiri edit around the same Indo-Pakistani themed articles and both users surround edits regarding MezzoMezzo. 1st encounter - GorgeCusterSabre was in a revert war with an ip address to uphold MezzoMezzo's edits. Mezzo edits Gorge reverts twice. After I opened a discussion regarding the edits on the articles talk page, Kashmiri responds instead of GorgeCusterSabre

2nd encounter- After I warned Mezzo on his talk page GorgeCustersSabre responds by expressing his support for Mezzo. Kashmiri then reverts back to Mezzo's version Mezzo then claims to have the support of 2 users

I believe that these edits by the users are serious POV violations so I take the issue to NPOV noticeboard. This is where GorgeCustersSabre claims to know MezzoMezzo on facebook I question his admission  and he repeats it. Another user suggests its a meatpuppet slip. GorgeCustersSabre seems to recant and said he meant wikipedia but the blind support of Mezzo's edits has me suspicious. Perhaps a review of the email interactions between these accounts as well? Although Kashmiris' an older account, Gorge claims to have been on wikipedia before the creation of his current nick This edits shows Gorge logs out between edits  An hour later Kashmiri starts to edit again  Both users edit warred with what turned out to be socks. I also recognize similar writing styles between Gorge and Kash, they both capitalize the word "NOT"  Misdemenor (talk) 23:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Wow!!! I am amazed and amused. Will wait and observe the process. BTW, what are the sanctions for malicious SPI report? kashmiri  TALK  05:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Ridiculous: I am not a sockpuppet and don't have a sockpuppet. From time to time I have supported MezzoMezzo from attacks by one tendentious editor, Misdemenor, who clearly has an axe to grind. My defence of the quality of MezzoMezzo's edits has resulted in this baseless allegation. I do not know MezzoMezzo at all outside of Wikipedia, and don't edit the same pages most days. I don't know his identity, nor do I need or want to. I merely defended him from attack because, in my honest opinion, he's a conscientious, reliable, well-read and effective editor. The same goes for kashmiri . I don't know him either. I merely happen to edit similar pages on occasion to both these guys, and I feel morally bound to defend them if unfairly attacked or if I see their edits are being pointlessly reverted by a troll or mean-spirited editor. The false accusations by Misdemenor are laughable, and he should reflect on his conduct on Wikipedia. I believe the only common thread between Mezzo, Kashmiri and me is that we have all seen through Misdemonor and have tried to get him to desist in his POV pushing. Hardly sockpuppetry!!!! George Custer&#39;s Sabre (talk) 06:24, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:DNFTT-- Fauzan ✆ talk ✉ mail  07:08, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm glad Misdemeanor did this. He's also accused me of being a sockpuppet of Gorge or something like that, and also accused me of pushing the same views as User:Sakimonk simply because I disagreed with him (Misdemeanor) in an editing dispute between the two of them. This all points to a bias-based lapse in competence; Misdemeanor is literally so aggressive and fanatical in the views he pushes that anybody who disagrees with his edits or editing style must necessarily disagree with his view, and actively work in order to push an opposite POV. Seriously though, I'm glad he did this. The boomerang is coming. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:43, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Kashmiri is also a serial wiki stalker. I had difference of opinion with him on a page that I created then he started to wiki stalk me. We can always agree and disagree on some issues with another editor but not become vindictive and stalk another person. WikiBulova (talk) 01:00, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * And your accusation of stalking is related to this SPI case...how, exactly? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It clearly shows that User:Kashmiri is a serial stalker who takes disagreement on one article and goes after all your edits and pages. He shows no regard for the opinions of others and bullies them by stalking and nominating their pages for deletions as vindictive behavior.WikiBulova (talk) 19:08, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Kashmiri also stalked my edits appearing out of nowhere on two articles that had nothing to do with him. Misdemenor (talk) 03:44, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * And there it is. Just like Misdemenor opened a random NPOV noticeboard thread against me but backed down on his main points when challenged, I see now that this SPI is just another attempt to throw more you-know-what on the wall. Neither Misdemenor nor WikiBulova (whom I've never encountered aside from the above and his accusing Kashmiri of being a meanie) seem to be paying attention now; this is just a smear campaign and a desperate grasp at straws.
 * Seriously though, I hope an admin does take a look at this. I've had a frivolous SPI opened against me before and those usually just end up making the opener look silly. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:55, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I did not back down on any points stop trying to mislead others. Misdemenor (talk) 05:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I second User:Misdemenor, the said editors are obvious socks who have been upto this game from a very long time now. This is basically a group of Indian editors who pretend to be from other countries such as Estonia, etc. but are not. They are full-time editors at Wikipedia and support each other in arguments and discussions. ,, , , ,. Check and. Both his discussions show that the articles fail WP:VERIFIABILITY and are cases of copyvio but they are just ivoting. There mst be similar articles too. Sockpuppet investigations/MezzoMezzo/Archive. Markangle11 (talk) 18:56, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Kashmiri: He is a devotee of Hamza Makhdoom and protects this article as well as other related articles such as Hari Parbat, Makhdoom, Kashmir Valley, etc. and all those that relate to his spiritual head called Hamza Makhdoom. He is also very eager to call his head by the title of Sultan-ul-Arifeen which is an age-old title belonging to the notable saint Sultan Bahu. This is why he even removed content  from that article blaming the sources to be promotional by concealing his own WP:COIN. He has been removing content related to this title  and changing or redirecting it to his head.  Because the title belongs to Sultan Bahu, he also makes sure he removes content or deletes articles related to Sultan Bahu, Qadiriyya, Sarwari Qadiri and any other article that directly or indirectly links to him. Similarly, he changed another article called Makhdoom Burhanuddin to Makhdoom (clan) because he wants the title Makhdum to stay linked only to his leader called Hamza Makhdoom. So he has issues with anyone having the same title as his leader.  He mostly edits and protects articles related to Kashmir as his name suggests.
 * User:MezzoMezzo: After his freshly admittance of his Facebook connection with User:GorgeCustersSabre Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard, there is nothing much left to prove but for clarification’s sake let me explain how he is connected not only to User:GorgeCustersSabre but to User:Kashmiri as well and supports kashmiri in all his discussions. They defend articles that interest them and get articles deleted by ivoting.:
 * User:GorgeCustersSabre: Follows MezzoMezzo like a devotee,.
 * I agree to, or even request, checkuser. This hopefully will end this nonsense. kashmiri  TALK  18:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Dear Markangle11, agreeing with MezzoMezzo's edits sometimes, and supporting him during attacks sometimes, does not make me a "devotee", much less a sockpuppet. That's a really weak and unsustainable claim. George Custer&#39;s Sabre (talk) 19:43, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I'm closing this case because of the lack of evidence. The evidence presented here is very weak.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)