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Miistermagico used to have a Wikipedia account he was using in 2016 called Kazuba. He used to spam YouTube videos onto his user-page and it was deleted twice. He then created a new account Miistermagico where he trolls peoples talk-pages with nonsense. He has been deceptive because he has not owned up to being Kazuba directly on his new account. His new account has been editing since October 5, 2017 but it is definitely him from his commenting style and interests. He did however claim on his new user-page 2 days ago (15 November), "My earlier user page was eliminated. Perhaps this time it will survive."

I have made my agenda clear here, I am member from a forum that Kazuba has been banned on. I wanted to warn users here about this users behaviour. The guy has a reputation on the internet as being a sock puppeteer and troll. Watcher1968 (talk) 20:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Miistermagico is still editing, he has admitted here to being Kazuba in his own words on my talk-page. The problem is that this is deliberate deception. He has been editing as Miistermagico since October 5, 2017. In that time at no point has he admitted to being Kazuba on his user-page or added an alternative account template. Last week I warned him about his sock-puppetry and he still hasn't officially declared he has two accounts on his new user-page. Miistermagico should be blocked for sock puppetry. Watcher1968 (talk) 10:11, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Miistermagico has also been trolling talk-pages with personal commentary that has nothing to do with articles., ,  Watcher1968 (talk) 10:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Dawkins&diff=next&oldid=811518832 This may be relevant &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:53, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

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As far as I have understood from, he does not deny having two accounts. This isn't, however, sockpuppetry, since he is not using them together in order to violate WP:PAGs. For the record: I am not endorsing his edits, just saying that it is not sockpuppetry. Tgeorgescu (talk) 10:34, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Miistermagico has not officially declared on his new userpage to owning two accounts, nor has added an alternative user template. If I had not signed up here and outed his other account, he wouldn't have even admitted it on my talk-page. He has been on Wikipedia for nearly two months on this new account. At no time did he declare on his user-page his other account is Kazuba. This is the definition of sock-puppetry, it is the improper use of more than one account. I consider it deception. He chose not to declare to other users his former account. Watcher1968 (talk) 10:59, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * ( Non-administrator comment ) Tgeorgescu already explained why this is not considered suckpuppetry.  You appear to have created a single purpose account to complain about this user.  It may possibly fall under legitimate use, but if this persists it could possibly be construed as harrassment, which would be inappropriate.  You also have contacted multiple administrators which could be considered WP:FORUMSHOPPING.  I recommend WP:ANI if Miistermagico spams in the future, so multiple people and administrators can evaluate if action is needed.  — Paleo  Neonate  – 11:12, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * By Wikipedia policies here should Miistermagico declare on his new user-page that his old account was Kazuba? Or you are saying he does not have to do that? Watcher1968 (talk) 11:24, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Sock puppetry tells where disclosure is necessary: when requesting a position of trust (i.e. WP:RfA), or when using more than one account concurrently (if the previous account was completely abandoned as its 1 year stale status indicates, that is not a concern). If the old account was still used to edit, it would be different.  I hope this helps, — Paleo  Neonate  – 11:52, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Kazuba is . Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:51, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There's no misuse here. Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:53, 26 November 2017 (UTC)