Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Keitrt/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

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A set of accounts exclusively concerned (see contribs) with getting the word out about H. J. Whitley, an early land developer who had a hand in founding Hollywood. Reported at WP:COIN; Whitleyhollywood, Aaaaaaatruth and Keitrt are recently active.

More:
 * Whitj says "I am the grandson of HJ Whitley".
 * Whitleyfamily says "It was given to me by H J Whitley. I am his great-granddaughter"
 * WhitleyHollywood says "I am the great-granddaughter of HJ Whitley. I am the foremost historian in the world pertaining to this subject.".
 * The IP 73.151.205.135 says they are Whitleyhollywood: "forgot old password and user name so signed up for a new one. whitleyhollywood".
 * Keitrt has, in the past, promoted a Whitley family author named Gaelyn Whitley Keith.

So we have a good sampling of the extended family. The disruption is chronic if you look into it. I can provide more diffs if necessary, if a glance at their contribs is not sufficient.Possibly (talk) 02:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Moved case under correct accused master.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Too for comparison:
 * Bagging and tagging confirmed accounts. The other two are stale and no action is required. . Closing SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Too for comparison:
 * Bagging and tagging confirmed accounts. The other two are stale and no action is required. . Closing SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Too for comparison:
 * Bagging and tagging confirmed accounts. The other two are stale and no action is required. . Closing SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging confirmed accounts. The other two are stale and no action is required. . Closing SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging confirmed accounts. The other two are stale and no action is required. . Closing SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   06:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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More promotion of H.J. Whitley and linking of the selfpub site thefatherofhollywood.com. This would be block evasion. MrOllie (talk) 03:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Associated IP 73.151.205.135 (self identified as the owner of the thefatherofhollywood.com here) has also become active again to restore Littlebirdie1's edits. - MrOllie (talk) 03:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Los Angeles From the Mountains to the Sea, Vol. 3 Is on the web is a reference to Hollywood page and if you read the page reference it calls HJ Whitley The Father of Hollywood in 1921. That might help you figure out that he is it. Or check with the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce or Disneyland who put up the Whitley Building in California Adventure.


 * I’m not used to discussions like this, but I assume that the accused is innocent until proven guilty, or are we using the “burden of proof” test here? Either way, the charge presents no evidence that I can discern, and I say, let this user go on with the name he or she has chosen because this person is not damaging the encyclopedia in any way that I can discern. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Another factor is www.thefatherofhollywood.com is not owned by an individual. It is owned by a corporation. It is no different than most websites that are used as references on Wiki. Also I have not ever been associated with keitrt. I do not know the password to access it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlebirdie1 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Not sure if this is where to reply but I have concerns of Mr.Ollie. He appears to discount history. I only posted a quote from a Newspaper printed in the 1930's from the Hollywood Citizen. I see that Mr. Ollie has been systematically destroying all information about H J Whitley. Not sure why but feel he is the author of the self published book by Wanamaker, Marc; Nudelman, Robert W. Early Hollywood. Arcadia or a relative of Toberman because he continues to put on the site Toberman as Father of Hollywood. If you look you will see enough reliable information on thefatherofhollywood.com. These are true newspaper articles. Read them for yourself. The book by Tony Luke Scott, The Stars of Hollywood Forever, T. Scott Publications, 2001 does not even have H J Whitley in the entire book I own it. Not sure who used it as a reference. Palmer, Edwin Obadiah. History of Hollywood. A. H. Cawston. This is also a self-published book so should not be used either. I own it and someone lied about the publisher. I assume it is either Wanamaker because he is embarrassed that he has published incorrect information. I contacted the editors of his book and they said it was not their job to correct his mistakes. He would need to do that. But I suppose the fact that they require you to buy hundreds of copies to sell himself he did not want to do that. If you look the Hollywood site and the HJ Whitley site have been there for years. Why did they suddenly decide to vandalize it? I have copies of the old site. I am sure you do to. Please try to resolve this or I will have to take this to the news media. If you look at the site you will see I have spoken on the television around the world. I am not trying to make money just promote the truth. It is surprising that Wiki has blacklisted Britannica Encyclopedia. What its not reliable. Yet it has the correct information. Lastly please check out Mr. Ollie and beenaroundawhile. Think they may be friends or the same guy with multiple accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlebirdie1 (talk • contribs) 04:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, it would certainly be helpful if editors would take this person's complaints to heart instead of ganging up on him or her. From what I've seen, this editor is making some good points but just not know how to navigate the WP system. I am really chagrined at this way of treating anybody trying to fix what is seen as an error in the encyclopedia. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:17, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Littlebirdie1 is almost certainly the same person as Whitleyhollywood (and thus Keitrt), based not just on editing overlap, but also some (BEANS) similarities in how they write, plus some more technical indicators. Blocked and tagged.  Given that the IP is static and dedicated to this farm, blocked for 6 months.  If they come back, our next step should be page protection. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:55, 1 June 2021 (UTC)