Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Khalil Berro/Archive

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See Draft:Khalil Berro created by master, User:Michaelchase3/sandbox by sock. Sock making numerous trivial edits (additions of commas, mainly) in apparent attempt to get autoconfirmed. DuncanHill (talk) 19:09, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * And now User:Michaelchase3 has created Khalil Berro. DuncanHill (talk) 19:26, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * There was a discussion about creating an article about Khali Berro at WP:THQ where User:Khali Berro was advised about trying to create an autobiography and uw-auto was added to their user talk page to provide a little more information. That user, however, never responded to clarify whether they were trying to create an article about themself; so, I was willing to assume good faith and just leave it for AfC to sort out. There's no prohibition against subjects creating drafts or articles about themselves though it's not considered good practice. The appearance of the socking, however, is a concern since it does appear to be an attempt to try and become autoconfirmed simply to get around the AfC process. It could also be a case of WP:MEAT, but I think the worst is going to be assumed unless either the alleged "master" or the alleged "sock" start clearing things up asap. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:47, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It's important to note that a third account, User:ArtManagementZRH, has already been blocked today by User:Orangemike for promo editing on Khalil Berro, shortly after the article was created. Best, GPL93 (talk) 23:08, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And that account as created an almost identical (but in German) article on German Wikipedia. DuncanHill (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * To be precise, that account was WP:SOFTBLOCKed per WP:PROMONAME not because of promotional editing; the two might seem to be the same thing, but they're not. Technically, a soft block can be lifted once the username has been changed to something acceptable, but sometimes an administrator will convert the block to a regular block or decline to unblock if they feel there's a high risk of promotional editing even after the username change. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Note to administrators and stewards: In view of promotional activity on both the English and the German Wikipedias, a global lock should be requested when these accounts are blocked.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:29, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm just going to add that these recent three edits by Khalil Berro (1, 2 and 3) are similar to the trivial edits mentioned above that were made by Michaelchase3. In and of themselves, they're probably harmless; however, taken in the context of what's being discussed above, they might be seen as behavioral evidence connecting the accounts and another attempt to try and get WP:AUTOCONFIRMED so as to try and create an article about Berro. Note all of my comments here are only about whether there's SOCK or MEAT taking place and are not abot whether there should be an article about Berro; I think that's a separate discussion for another venue. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:48, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Indef'd and tagged. No other accounts are found.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)


 * In light of the cross-wiki sockpuppetry + more socking below, . Tagged. Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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Per WP:DUCK, account wasn't created until after the other accounts were blocked and immediately began editing Khalil Berro. GPL93 (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Looks WP:DUCKy enough for a block without CU. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)