Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kistara/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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I discovered this group of accounts while checking an unrelated case. All of these accounts edit a range of articles related to the Malaysian army. More to come momentarily. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:49, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

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I have separated my account based on task. As an example account A for article creation, account B for image uploader, account C just for local edit in my language (Bahasa Melayu) etc. No bad intention at all. Is that wrong? Check my history and log for clarification. Kistara (talk) 06:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , It's perfectly fine to have multiple accounts, as long as you're not using them for WP:ILLEGIT purposes. You need to declare on each user page what the purpose of the account is, and tie it back to your main account.  See User:RoySmith-Mobile for an example.  Most people who create multiple accounts use a common naming scheme, so it's even more obvious, but as long as you make plain declarations on your user page(s), you should be fine. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Ohhh..I never know the need of declaration and to link each other multiple account. I will do it ASAP because I also want to manage and reorganize my acount but I need some time to do so because currently I rarely on wiki. Before I forgot, actually not all acount you mentioned above is mine. One of the account was shared between other users which is the admin of the military group page so I can't tie it with my personal account.

I forgot to explain each purpose of the account.

Kistara - My main account for article creation.

Tomahawkarf - My second account for image upload.


 * Both account above used for local edit only.

GlobalEditorEx - Like its name, this account used for international edit.

Hasbullah Nikmat - Account for Malay language page only. (but I forgot the password)

Laskar Kern - Not totaly my account. Its destined to be share between other users in military group and now the account not active anymore I think.

I decided to link only this three account (Kistara, Tomahawkarf and GlobalEditorEx) to each other. If can the admin can delete the last two account.

Kistara (talk) 6 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , There's a couple of different issues here. The most immediate is that sharing of accounts is never allowed.  Please see WP:SHAREDACCOUNT for our policy on that.  You've requested that  and  be deleted.  Technically, accounts can't be deleted, so I'm going to block both of those so they can't edit.  Please ensure that you are the only person who has access to your other account(s).  If anybody else has the passwords, you should change them immediately.


 * As for, , and , At a bare minimum, you need to plainly declare on those user pages that they are all the same person. I'm looking to  for guidance on whether the described uses fall within the limits of WP:VALIDALT.  My initial impression is that they probably do not.  -- RoySmith (talk) 14:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * All of the accounts are ✅ - they're all on a narrow IP range and have both a desktop and a mobile device in common, and the same devices have often been used to edit logged out. I'd like to wait for an explanation from the user as to what they're doing with all these accounts before deciding what to do next. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:52, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , I'm placing this on hold. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:13, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * your input is solicited here. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Blocked Laskar and Hasbullah, no tags. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for doing the work here. My opinion is that as long as the user has clearly linked the accounts then their stated usage is fine, with the exception of the shared account of course but you've already blocked it. et. al.: you should not use more than one of your accounts to edit any one article, that's technically not allowed, but as long as you're not doing anything that makes it look like you're pretending to be different people on purpose, nobody should give you any trouble. For an example of a clearly disclosed alternate account you can have a look at the userboxes on the right side of my own alternate account's user page. I'm going to close this investigation, but if you need any help please leave a message for myself or RoySmith, we'll be glad to help. Thanks. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:55, 6 October 2020 (UTC)