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Sockmaster is a WP:SPA centered around Malankara Orthodox topics. (ip1) Same kind of edit to Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church within 24 hours of sockmaster's block, and geolocates to Kerala; (ip2) Exactly the same edit to Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church as sockmaster and geolocates to Kerala. Elizium23 (talk) 03:33, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * . Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:34, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Exactly the same interest in Malankara (and St. Thomas the Apostle, who is closely related to Malankara in India). IP appeared as soon as we blocked and tagged the previous crop. Geolocates to - guess where? - Kerala! Elizium23 (talk) 18:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * - Please block the IP for 3 days., it'll be more productive to get some semi-protection on the articles at WP:RFPP than playing Whac-A-Mole with IP editors. Cabayi (talk) 18:43, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked, closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:53, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Removing the same content from Malankara Church, Kkktpkirij here, the IPv6 here ] and he IPv4 here. S0091 (talk) 21:36, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * After filing this report, I noticed previous reports where Callanecc suggested RFPP instead. I filed there and they have protected the page so this report may be moot.  If so, no issue with closing it.  S0091 (talk) 22:25, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * Pages protected, that should do for now. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Same interest of topic area Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church, especially the article Malankara Metropolitan,  (niche topic area but hotly contested facts) Contribution history begins two months after the other ends (possible IP socking in the meantime). Elizium23 (talk) 04:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅, . ST47 (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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First edit? Undid my revert at Malankara Metropolitan, ground-zero for Kkktpkirij's topic area of interest. Elizium23 (talk) 03:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * IPs inactive since reported. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 10:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Geolocates to Kerala, India. Right back in action with edits to Malankara Metropolitan. Elizium23 (talk) 10:37, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * IPs inactive since reported. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Loves the same article, Malankara Metropolitan:  Elizium23 (talk) 13:09, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * IPs inactive since reported. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

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Same interest in Kerala and Malankara (St. Thomas) Church:   edits tagged with same "Mobile edit" tags as other socks. Elizium23 (talk) 03:28, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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Closing as I suspect this isn't the same user...they aren't technically. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:42, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Same interest in Malankara Metropolitan and Malankara Church even on their user page. Account created on March 12, 2020. Elizium23 (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * I blocked the user indef based on the editing pattern and not knowing about this SPI, but it would still be good to confirm.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:10, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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First edit went for the jugular: a Syro-Malabar archbishop. IPv6 geolocates to Kerala. Elizium23 (talk) 09:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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IP edits too old. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

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As just before, a series of edits to a Syro-Malabar topic Elizium23 (talk) 23:17, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Closing as stale —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

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Same article, same issue: Foundation of the Malankara Church. Also on Syro-Malabar Church just after it's been semi-protected for a year. This one was a sleeper & probably should've been caught in a previous CU; account was created January 3. Elizium23 (talk) 09:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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❌ to the previous confirmed account. This is beginning to look like meatpuppetry is. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:42, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Conflict of interest on Syro-Malabar topics. "Editing by order of Archbishop". Wants to change Syriac text from whatever it was to whatever they want it to be. Elizium23 (talk) 06:58, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

This is meat puppetry. It appears that there is more than one church faction at work here. Meat master Kkktpkirij operated in Malankara Church topics, while the current meatpuppets are operating on Syro-Malabar Catholic Church. It is difficult to distinguish these factions because of articles in common and competing jurisdictions. Do you recommend identifying a meat master for each faction? Elizium23 (talk) 08:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  08:18, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you mean by identifying a meat master for each faction. I think it is pretty clear what I asked for.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:37, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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Claims to be the subject of this BLP requesting an edit for himself. One in a long string of socks and meats. Elizium23 (talk) 08:38, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Account is blocked. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The account is WP:soft blocked. Soft block implies that only the account is blocked, while the user is free to create new account. I reopened the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm comfortable that this is likely to be meatpuppetry if not socking. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Legal threat issued today. Elizium23 (talk) 08:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Already range blocked. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:16, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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Intent on changing/adding name for Syro-Malabar bishop Declares COI with mandate from Church leaders Followed up legal threat from IPv6 on my user talk page Elizium23 (talk) 01:06, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Declared COI and vandalized George Alencherry article just as his predecessors did. Elizium23 (talk) 08:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * Duck is enough not to go dumpster diving. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 06:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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Fixated on name of Malankara (Orthodox Syrian) Church Elizium23 (talk) 05:26, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * CU makes it but the behaviour is fairly convincing for me. Pictogram resolved.svg All sock blocked and tagged. Closing case.  Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:03, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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Continuing the meat puppet theme and love of Malabar/Malankara churches, this sock is a partisan who enjoys deleting wide swaths of valid material from articles and modifying information to reflect partisan POV. You should find that his IP, like all the others, geolocate to Kerala or thereabouts in South India. Elizium23 (talk) 06:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Another Malabar/Malankara fan, you'll find he geolocates to Kerala/South India; once again partisanship in deletions from articles, purely disruptive, blocked once already; changes facts to suit POV mentions "Facebook conflict" of some other user, I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook is the source of our meat puppets too. Elizium23 (talk) 06:44, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Purely disruptive and hyper-partisan sock introducing unsourced POV information and deleting swaths of valid stuff because they don't agree.
 * 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dionysious_V&diff=prev&oldid=990060849&diffmode=source
 * 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mathews_Athanasius&diff=prev&oldid=990060250&diffmode=source
 * 3) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malankara_Metropolitan&diff=prev&oldid=990050211&diffmode=source
 * 4) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Malankara_Metropolitans&diff=prev&oldid=990049498&diffmode=source Elizium23 (talk) 19:00, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not sure why IP ranges or user agents would matter to a meatpuppet farm. Elizium23 (talk) 02:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Elizium23 - Let me take another look. My brain was in "sockpuppet" mode when I ran this last time. :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Pictogram voting wait blue.svg Checking...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * to . They're all from the same country. Different user agents and IP ranges. A behavioral investigation will be needed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   19:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * There is certainly a shared interest in topics related to a particular set of churches. But, beyond that, I can't see enough to call them socks.  There's the two with "Mathew" in their name, but apparently, that name also has significance in the church, so it would not be surprising for people associated with that church to use it.  The CU finding just says they're located near each other, but since the church is specific to a particular section of India, that's not surprising either.  Most of the edits are removal of material, which makes it hard to compare, since I can't look for shared language clues.  All three of these are on mobile, but that's meaningless in India, where almost everybody is on mobile.  One of them uses "advanced mobile edit", the others don't.  My best guess is this is a bunch of church members who have all been independently drawn here by off-wiki influences.  Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)