Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Klimgeran/Archive

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CS - https://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NEM_(blockchain_technologie)&oldid=16066009 SK - https://sk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NEM_(blockchain_technol%C3%B3gia)&oldid=6707214
 * Both Klimgeran (SM) and サンドマン (SP) are involved in creating and recreating both Symbol (blockchain) and NEM (cryptocurrency). SM appears to have also exclusively edited about NEM on IT, created the article in RU https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NEM_(%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%82%D0%B0)&oldid=88700890 Meanwhile, Anton wiedermann created both CS and SK versions without much other edits apart from NEM.


 * In September, Klimgeran (potentially SM) first created the article NEM (cryptocurrency)


 * On the same day, it was rejected for failing notability by DMySon. It was later rejected again by Mikehawk10.


 * In October, サンドマン (at a time when what appears to be SM has stopped editing) moved it from draft to mainspace.


 * The account also has repeatedly removed the prod template:


 * Two warnings have been issued about removing the two PROD templates: サンドマン


 * Same pattern emerged with Klimgeran creating Symbol (cryptocurrency) in September which was immediately deleted, only for it to be recreated again by サンドマン a month later. If not a case of SPA, it may be COI. - --WomenProj (talk) 13:40, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Klimgeran is Russian and サンドマン is Japanese. 　This is because the quotations in the article written by myself, サンドマン, are written in Japanese.　　Klimgeran's quote, on the other hand, is only from an article written in English.And 　he has also posted in Russian.　As you can see, サンドマン and Klimgeran are not the same person.


 * In NEM, the citation for the article created by Klimgeran is not a reliable source of information, so I decided to translate and publish the Japanese version.


 * Symbol is written based on the Japanese version.


 * I created the Symbol page without knowing that the Symbol article written by Klimgeran existed. If I had known that it existed, I would have improved the article and made it the main page.　In the case of NEM, I just found an article written by Klimgeran and made some improvements.


 * Who is Anton wiedermann? Also, I don't see the point of having separate accounts for French and Slovak, when Klim edits under the same name in English and Russian.　　I think Klimgeran and Anton wiedermann are different people in that respect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by サンドマン (talk • contribs) 14:56, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

サンドマン (talk) 10:48, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I did some CU work on this and the best I can come up with is Klimgeran to サンドマン.  I didn't check Anton because they only had a couple of edits several years ago.  But, the bigger point is that there's no temporal overlap between these two accounts, so by our rules, we can't call it socking even if we posited that they were the same person.  Looking at the edit history, what I see is two people who are interested in the same flavor of cryptocurrency, which is a popular topic, so I don't see any strong behavioral evidence for socking.  I'm closing this with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)