Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KnutfAen/Archive

05 March 2014

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Both accounts Went immediately to the same talk page and made only one edit which was voting the same vote (oppose) on the same issue. This is a big red flag showing that they probably socks to the one who opposed as well. The "Master" Claimed that he had friends make the account because they were experts at this issue. I think the Master is trying to gain votes via socks. We need a check user to see where the Accounts originated from because If they came from the same IP, then the whole argument that they were friends Is invalid. Differences: [] [] [] [] [] Happy_Attack_Dog &#34;The Ultimate Wikipedia Guard Dog&#34; (talk) 00:27, 6 March 2014 (UTC) (UTC)

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They are indeed my friends that i contacted to get their opinion on the matter, but we all used the same computer in order to do so. Since they did not have a wikipedia user they created one then before commenting. KnutfAen (talk) 13:03, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The reason this is not canvassing or meatpuppetry is that all i did was  to notify them about the ongoing discussion. Using the same device is really only a matter of limited recorces. The device was a work device and not my personal one. i did not convince them or pursuade them to  support my case. I was not even in the room with them as they did so. I therefore request that this investigation be dropped and that we can get back to discussing the proposed renaming of the page. I do not have anything against it if a majority of people would want to do so. KnutfAen (talk) 11:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

It is almost impossible to AGF here. I tell you, I think I smell a Lie... Happy_Attack_Dog &#34;The Ultimate Wikipedia Guard Dog&#34; (talk) 14:43, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
I don't know how essential CheckUser is here, these accounts are almost certainly going to come back as "confirmed" since KnutfAen has said that all accounts were created from their computer. Assuming that KnutfAen is telling the truth, there is already a problem with canvassing and/or meatpuppetry, which makes any investigation of sockpuppetry pretty much moot. I'm tempted to just close this SPI myself but I'm going to hold off until a clerk or CU, or another admin thinks that a search for sleepers is useful. --  At am a  頭 18:58, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I feel a bit sorry for the two friends if this is indeed a meatpuppetry/canvassing situation as stated. But I'd like a checkuser to look for any possible other accounts to clear the air, since this editor has shown confusion about policy in this area. Then we'll know it was just this one time; and they can request unblock if they wish. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable to me. --  At am a  頭 20:39, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I am going to close this. KnutfAen has had behavioral troubles aside from these multiple accounts, and they have been warned on both their user talk page and on Talk:Draug about them. They've for violating WP:MEAT, WP:CANVASS, and most recently WP:TPO. At this point, they've also withdrawn from the discussion on that talk page (by their own choice, I'd rather that they continued the discussion absent disruption) and I don't think any further disruption will be forthcoming, so I don't believe any further action is necessary. If disruption along these lines does occur, though, I will likely block indefinitely, having given this editor at least second and third chances. As for what action I've already taken, User:BrianAdam753 and User:Sheffieldguy were blocked as meatpuppets and their arguments on the discussion page were stricken (though not removed) so as not to disruptively influence the debate. --  At am a  頭 15:34, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * and are the only accounts, but they were created on and edited solely from 's mobile device, not his computer as he noted above.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  22:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)