Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kundan Ravindra Dhayade/Archive

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Block evasion by Kundan; even has the same initials - 'Rich KRD'; the user has the same editing patterns and is editing the same articles. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 14:11, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Blocking and tagging sock. See also . Leaving CU request as is for another clerk/CU to decide. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The master is too stale to run a check to compare. However, I did run a check on the sock account and found no other accounts or sleepers.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   15:05, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As the master is stale so no CU connection can be got, I'm going to leave the tags as suspected. Close as nothing left to do. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

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Similar editing patterns and editing on the same pages; is DUCK. This account was created a month after other socks were banned. I asked if they are Kundan and they replied with an evasive "I'm research volta" answer. They also scrubbed their talk page of all this. Noting the lack of English competency, it is hard to believe that the user actually lives in New York as they claim on their user page. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 16:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , FWIW, I live in New York and I can assure you that lots of people here have minimal English. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:11, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I was just trying to convey that the sock was likely lying on user-page to evade easy detection. Thanks. GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 00:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , not a problem. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * . DUCK behavior doesn't require a CU to confirm. Plus, the master account and past sock are both too ; no checkuser data is available.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   18:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * based on article overlap, timing of account creation vs. last sock being blocked, new user being on track for 15,000 edits/year, not to mention some more technical clues. Indef/tagged. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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Is Duck. Same as recently blocked Research Voltas GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 01:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for 2 weeks. https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/106.220.85.12 claims this is static.  But, on the other hand, it claims it's in Pune, while https://db-ip.com/106.220.85.12 claims it's in Chennai, 100's of km away, so who really knows.  In any case, the editing history looks static-like. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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Is DUCK. Editing the same pages as the recently blocked sock (user:Research Voltas), and another IP. . GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 16:14, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Another one! Block evasion by Kundan; Similar editing patterns and editing on the same pages; is DUCK.. IP editing to avoid detection. All edits are after recent block given to Research volta sock. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 16:34, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Another one!! All edit are done today. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 16:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Another day, another IP. Is Duck. Reported for the same reasons as above IPs. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 23:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

The whole 106.195.x.x IP range is used by Kundan. Must be dynamic IP allocation by their internet provider. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 14:41, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


 * NOTE: All these IP edits are on topics related to location & people of Jalgaon district in western India. Edit summaries, if any, are typically "ce", info stuffed [sic], "Info maximize" [sic]. Original user was blocked for socking and general competency issues. They are a serial block evader.

Diffs for blocked sock : politician1, politician2 location1, location2, region (page created by sock)

Diffs on the same pages for listed IPs: politician1, politician2, politician2 location1, location2, region (page created by sock).

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 * Thanks for blocking the IPs. I have no idea how else I can prove they are the same person other than pointing out their editing patterns. I just don't have access to the same tool admins have. I'll request PP next time. Thanks. GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 14:18, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 16:20, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you for the diffs, but that's not really what I was looking for. Those diffs just show overlap editing the same articles (which I knew already).  What I needed was specific similarities that would show me these were the same person.  But, in any case, I did a bunch of digging on my own and did indeed spot a few clues.  The problem is, they are using a fairly wide IP range (106.195.0.0/20) which appears to have other legitimate activity, so I'm hesitant to block it.  I did however go ahead and perform a minimal block (1 month, account creation allowed) on that range (any admin should feel free to unblock without asking).  Going forward, WP:RFPP may be a more effective tool. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:35, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Same editing pattern as the sockmaster; User began editing after other socks were banned in |late March. I asked them if they are Kundan/Sockmaster on their talk page, but they removed my question. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 02:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @RoySmith, the suspect has edited pages on topics surrounding Jalgaon/Dhule (Western Indian cities), culture and politicians from around the area in similar fashion as the previous sock-puppets. For example on the Jalgaon district page, edits have been made by sockmaster User:Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (blocked), User:Rich KRD (blocked puppet), and the current sock. Another example would be a local politician Raksha Khadse, where edits have been made by sockmaster User:Kundan Ravindra Dhayade, User:Research Voltas (another blocked puppet), and the current sock. Other examples pages are Muktabai, Muktabai Temple, Purna River (tributary of Tapti), North Maharashtra. Plenty of pages where they overlap in editing. The user removed my question from their talk-page, which asked if they were the sock (I know that they are well within their rights to do it, but it don't smell right.) Thanks. GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 05:33, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @RoySmith, I must mention that is these topics mentioned above are not often edited by many editors and of someone's taking interest, I'm bound to run into them here. When I noticed HugeEarth, I was immediately sure that they are a block evader, back with a new account. In addition to all of the previously mentioned things: (a) the way they communicate with other users is very similar, specifically, limited use of English (example1, and poor additions to sports article (example2, example3) (c) Frequent use of Teahouse example4. (d) They removed my comment asking if they were puppet. Am I missing some procedural step, Should I be asking for checkuser? this is an obvious WP:DUCK . I'm feeling that I have to put a lot more work so someone doesn't keep evding block. Why isn't the IP evidence being used? Thanks.  GreaterPonce665  (TALK) 04:45, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @GreaterPonce665 to answer your question about checkuser and IP evidence, the problem is, all of the accounts in the archive are stale, by which I mean they haven't edited in the past 90 days. The way the checkuser system works, the logs roll over every 90 days, so if a user hasn't edited in that time, there's no IP data for the checkuser to look at.
 * I've taken a few looks at this, and while I see that there's quite a bit of editing overlap, plus some other more technical indicators, I can't quite convince myself this is socking with enough confidence to block. Many of the technical indicators (timecards, types of clients used, English language skills) don't tell me more than "these users all likely live in India".  Most of the editing is about topics related to Jalgaon district, but it's not surprising to see multiple people who are interested in the same geographic area.  If you looked at the editing habits of the members of WP:NYC, you'd probably conclude that half of them were my socks.
 * could I ask you to take a look? You worked this case back in December; maybe there's some clues you can see that I'm missing? -- RoySmith (talk) 23:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , my block in the first case I think was at least partly based on the username similarity, article overlap and close account creation time to last account block. However, I will email you with a bit of WP:BEANS evidence. Nothing off-wiki, but wouldn't like to make the connection easy to divert if this user is a sock. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * @GreaterPonce665 can you be more specific what "Same editing pattern as the sockmaster" means? Links to specific edits by both accounts demonstrating this pattern would be most useful. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:54, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * What I need is more than just overlaps. We have good tools for finding those.  I'm looking for specific edits which show that Huge Earth is the same person as the other accounts, as opposed to just somebody who is interested in the same topics. -- RoySmith (talk) 11:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Based on the beans Dreamy Jazz sent me, I'm calling proven to previous sock  and suspected to  (with the implication that it's possible we've got Research mis-identified).  For what it's worth, I did a little statistical digging for edits which match the clue Dreamy gave me.  Since the beginning of this year, we had 18 edits match.  Nine of them are Huge, one is Research, three are from one exceptionally experienced user who is obviously not related, and the rest look like a smattering of random noise. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:58, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

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blocked on Jul 27. created on Aug 4. Both edit pages on Maharashtra districts, Indian sports persons and Marathi films. They share the following language quirks, some unique to these two ("copey edit" has 3 hits across all wikipedia, 2 from these accounts)
 * "WP standard" in edit summaries: Newton Huge Earth


 * arti as short for article in edit summaries: Newton - 1,2, 3, Huge Earth: 1, 2, 3, 4


 * "Something wrote" edit summaries: Newton, Huge


 * Ommit: Newton, Huge


 * Only users to use 'Hiii' on teahouse: Newton - 1, 2, 3, Huge - 1, 2, 3


 * Only users to use "copey edit" on teahouse: Newton - 1, Huge - 1

Huge Earth had issues with ISBN and using same ref twice, for which he didn't get an readymade solution on teahouse. Newton Euro asked a question with same two issues - ISBN/multiple refs - a month later.

Newton Euro has no page overlap between and Huge Earth (apart from Teahouse), but quite a bit with Dhayade and Research Voltas, the older socks. Dhayade (1, 2) and Newton (1) added the same link about Marathi remakes to Child's Play. Newton has same competence issues as Dhayade. Hemanthah (talk) 05:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * The filing is convincing - there are far too many idiosyncrasies in edit summary style, and similarities in interests and behaviour, for this to be a different person. I noticed additional behavioural similarities while looking at these accounts myself; also, the only users who have made substantial edits to Zapatlela recently have been socks of this user. - please indef the sock. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 06:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * -- TNT (talk • she/they) 18:47, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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Editing style is very similar to the previous sock User:Newton Euro. In addition to adding pointless links (e.g., portals), the use of "something wrote" type edit summaries ,, the mispelling of template, are dead giveaways. I've already blocked them so this is mostly for the record.--RegentsPark (comment) 17:51, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Added tag for master. Nothing more to do, so closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 04:30, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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Found when comparing this case to Sockpuppet investigations/Prince Of Roblox due to overlap in edits (trying to find any pre-existing case for the account Wadafaqbro who doesn't seem to be technically related to that case). Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:17, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Pro forma. is ✅ to. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:17, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Similar editing patterns (same pages, similarly broken English, general interests). I think the biggest give may be that this user came into existence in a week as soon as the last sock was banned on Jan 5, 22. Kiran_891 (TALK) 19:37, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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Oppose, This claim is wrong. General interest? Its a pretty common thing, lots of folks can have common interests. You cant accuse and drag editors SPI for no reason or at ANI. Isn't it bothering, questioning credibility of editors, who want to volunteer the wp. I oppose this.Success think (talk) 20:47, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 12:57, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Both previous and this account have similar editing interests (mainly Maharashtra and cricket related articles) Both have added portals and problem-tags to articles. Similar grammar as well. Kpddg  (talk)  15:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( original case name)

I believe the operator of the account (RSGC), which was blocked from mainspace on 11 April 2023 for contributing with poor standard of English, is operating as  (TCO) to circumvent a block from the mainspace that was imposed following a discussion at ANI (see below). I’ve no doubt the operator is here to contribute in good faith but their poor level of English is concerning.

TCO came to my attention via the Guild of Copy Editors (GOCE) Requests page while making c/e requests for the same articles as RSGC (see below). So I did a bit of digging and I think both accounts are operated by the same person. RSGC’s edits were discussed at ANI here, and this discussion that led to their partial block.
 * Background

blocked RSGC from the mainspace on 11 April 2023 for "inability to contribute at a necessary level of English" here

was created on 2 May 2023. warned TCO in early September 2023 for adding poor English to articles here; the account’s talk page permalink carries several warnings for adding poor English to articles.

Commonalities between the accounts:
 * Evidence

•Both accounts’ edits are flagged as "Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit", though RSGC sometimes used Visual Editor.

•The Interaction analyzer shows both accounts often edit(ed) articles on sports in India. Both occasionally edit(ed) articles about Maharashtra state and temples in India.

•RSGC made several copy-edit (c/e) requests at the GOCE here (28 March 2023), here (14 Feb 2023), and here (17 Feb 2023).

•On 03 June 2023, TCO makes their first c/e request at the GOCE here, coming to my attention. The request is for Board of Control for Cricket in India, which RSGC requested earlier (see below).

•RSGC requested copy-edits to Sports in India and Board of Control for Cricket in India here; and Sport in India here.

•TCO requests a c/e to Sports in India here and Sport in India here.

•Both accounts display a poor standard of English, as shown in the example diffs above. Further examples:

••RSGC at 2023 Indian Premier League:

••RSGC at North Maharashtra:

••TCO at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium:

••TCO at Board of Control for Cricket in India

I’ve no direct evidence of any other accounts being involved. RSGC is probably stale for a CU check. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  07:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * There's just such a tremendous amount of overlap here (in addition to other tip-offs) that I'm confident these two are the same person. Both blocked. There's a similarly enormous amount of overlap with various other accounts from Sockpuppet investigations/Kundan Ravindra Dhayade/Archive; those accounts are likely also stale, but behaviorally I have no doubt this is a match. please move this over to the Kundan Ravindra Dhayade SPI and tag these two accounts as suspected to KRD. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:39, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. FWIW I looked at this earlier and came to the exact same conclusion. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 10:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)