Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kurfürst/Archive

26 March 2012

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User Kurfürst who was blocked two years ago was editing Aircraft of the Battle of Britain with these types of edits and comments eg: 2 January 2010, 27 July 2009, 2 July 2009, 18 and 16 June 2009

Now compare those with the latest batch of changes made by IP 86.101.5.223 25 March 2012 which is from Budapest, Hungary the same place as Kurfürst

This is someone who is familiar with editing and the edits made, and the comments are remarkably similar to those made in 2009 by Kurfürst - I had noticed changes made to other articles by this IP address and deliberately altered this section of Aircraft of the Battle of Britain to see what would happen. You will notice that the IP user knows what was altered and has replaced the very sections that Kurfürst had included in the first place, along with comments about the source being "easy to access". Kurfürst has been engaged in a lengthy, and acrimonious debate about 100 Octane fuel in an IL2 forum; it is no coincidence that this IP address has set about altering this section of the Aircraft of the Battle of Britain article in accordance with similar changes made by Kurfürst in 2010 and 2009. (Also see the article Messerschmitt Bf 109 variants; cf 25 March 2012, which has also been altered by this same IP user after I made some changes.) ◆ 'Min✪rhist✪rian ◆  MTalk''   12:12, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

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IP hardblocked for 3 months. --MuZemike 23:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

31 August 2012

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User:Kurfürst from Budapest was banned for constant trouble making. 213.222.180 also from Budapest, made changes to articles on Messerschmitt Bf 109s, was identified as Kurfürst, and was banned. Now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.222.180.172 is also from Budapest and the only alterations made are to reverse my changes 1 and 2, while engaging in personal attacks here and here in exactly the same style as Kurfürst why Kurfurst was blocked.

It is interesting that 213.222.180.172 seems to know who I am elsewhere because I do not use the same username as I do here: the only ex wikipedian who knows what other sites I am on is Kurfurst - it is also interesting that the geo-location maps show that both IP addresses originate in exactly the same location off Kerepesi Ut in Budapest (the railway station). And note also that 213.222.180.172 has engaged in petty, personal attack while pretending to "defend" Kurfurst, yet claims to have nothing to do with Kurfurst. He makes his attacks personal while defending someone he doesn't know? Ergo 213.222.180.172, nee Kurfurst, nee 86.101.5.223 has just proved that he is one and the same individual. Well done. ◆ 'Min✪rhist✪rian ◆ MTalk''   03:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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Long story short, you seem to be very familar, perhaps too familiar, most likely involved in those discussions in other forums yourself. My take is that you got yourself in some sort of disagreement with the user, and now you seem to want to 'win' your arguments THERE by editing Wikipedia to reflect your POV HERE. Two editors were in oppose of your totally useless and unhelpful edits (which are appearantly without any cite, while the information you seek to replace was there for ages and *is* cited), you try sockpuppet accusations? Really, really unhelpful.

I have nothing to do with Kurfurst, but I am interested in WW2 aircraft. I am also interested in that articles should reflect correct and verifiable information, and I have also seen your lenghty rants on various discuss aviation discussion boards. Its a bit hard to miss those. You seem to be sick of the guy and follow him everywhere, I have seen you flaming on at LEAST three aviation related discussion baordsand taking every opportunity of taking a shot at the guy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.222.180.172 (talk) 13:41, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Jesus Christ, everybody knows at the banana (Il2) forums who you are, after all you did there after joining (following Kurfurst and Crumpp) was attacking Crumpp and Kurfurst. Every post you make is either about 100 octane, how Kurfurst was banned from Wikipedia, or what a bad person Crumpp is. Now you drag it here too, worse, you are only seem to edit Fw 190 and 109 articles just to continue your silly feud with them. It has made public on Il2 after your series of attacks who you are and I checked your edits... you are here to destroy 109 articles on wiki and make them biased just to p/o kurfurst. Its not just them watching these articles... luckily. Anyone who looks at your profile there http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/search.php?searchid=2663739&pp=25&page=17 sees that you are fanatic and obsessed with the subject. Even the very board of "Bug 200" you are quoting as evidence has you with your NZTyphoon nick arguing all over the same details you are trying to pull from this article. We all see it on 1c forums and do not like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.222.180.172 (talk) 16:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

No comment regarding the relationship between the two/three mentioned users here across multiple Boards/Forums, the comments should be moved to a proper place: Sockpuppet investigations/Kurfürst --Denniss (talk) 07:19, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * Hard blocked 213* for 2 months, other IP is stale. This one is quacking very loudly in style and demeanor. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 21:04, 5 September 2012 (UTC)