Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ladnavfan/Archive

Report date August 26 2009, 14:43 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Toddst1


 * Similarity of names:
 * Fachette.expert is based on Fachette which appears to be a hoax or grossly mistranslated meal. The article was created by the author on 00:58, 24 August 2009
 * Ladnavfan is based on Ladnav which appears to be either a hoax or completely NN publication. The article was created by the author 10:47, 24 August 2009


 * Timing of creation of accounts
 * 00:08, 24 August 2009 Fachette.expert (talk | contribs | block) new user account ‎
 * 10:11, 24 August 2009 Ladnavfan (talk | contribs | block) new user account

Toddst1 (talk) 14:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The only editors contributing to Fachette were Ladnavfan and Fachette.expert
 * Ladnavfan appears to not be a new user as the editor's 14th edit was to file a MFD on an obscure article in Mathsci's user space so I suspect there are other socks as well.
 * This appears to be related to an ongoing Arbcom case somehow. See User_talk:Hersfold. Toddst1 (talk) 15:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

We've had several new users popping up at random throughout this case and one confirmed instance of socking; there's enough of a suspicion here that I'm going to go ahead and run a quick check to see if there's any relation between these two or other accounts that have appeared. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 17:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * is ❌ to this or any other suspect accounts at the arbitration case. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It is ✅ that is the following users:
 * IPs and useragents are all exactly identical. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * IPs and useragents are all exactly identical. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * IPs and useragents are all exactly identical. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * IPs and useragents are all exactly identical. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * IPs and useragents are all exactly identical. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * It seems to me that the accounts are somewhat likely to be operated by the same individual, but that, absent any more conclusive evidence (such as checkuser confirmation), it is impossible to satisfactorily confirm the link. Unless I am missing something, neither of the accounts seem to be engaging in disruptive behaviour (the MfD aside - and that should be dealt with on ANI or by an administrator operating outside of any investigation into sockpuppetry). Consequently, I would move to close this investigation as inconclusive - but I would observe that if the accounts are linked, the operator would be well advised to use only one of them to edit in future. I welcome the input of other administrators. AGK 15:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Accounts listed as "confirmed" above blocked and tagged. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 18:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing the clerk work too, Hersfold :) <b style="color:navy;">NW</b> ( Talk ) 18:26, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Report date September 27 2009, 00:27 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Pascal666

User created Madge Baldock linking to Federation for Independent Standards and Testing in Education created by User:Detsif a known sock of Ladnavfan and Jean Guisande created by User:Banff Springs another known sock of Ladnavfan. All three pages need to be deleted and any other pages created by Pace Mirror Lead or one of the other known socks should probably be killed as well. --Pascal666 00:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I should probably mention that the first (and only linked) reference for Federation for Independent Standards and Testing in Education is to A Hand in the Bush, a book on vaginal fisting. User:Detsif also created FISTEd as a redirect to Federation for Independent Standards and Testing in Education. Also, both it and Madge Baldock contain an external link to http://www.fisted.ca, an adult DVD portal. --Pascal666 22:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

The edit summary for the creation of both Madge Baldock (by Pace Mirror Lead) and Jean Guisande (by Banff Springs, a known sock of Ladnavfan) is "New article --- more later". --Pascal666 22:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * Comment. I can't say whether Pascal's suspicions are well-founded, but can say that his proposed mass deletion is outside the scope of SPI.  If the investigation reveals that PML is a sock of a banned user then WP:CSD G5 can be applied.  Otherwise Pascal should just take the pages to WP:AD as usual.  212.183.134.209 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I have tagged the articles in question as hoaxes. Can it be a coincidence that the "Federation for Independent Standards and Testing in Education" article is crafted to match the search string "Baldock beer disaster"?  Mister Collins (talk) 06:36, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Blocked and tagged. MuZemike 19:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions