Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lala migos/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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They are edit warring on the same articles using the same edit summaries. Lala migos and the IP used the same edit summary: Not all the North african countries are called Maghreb. All three used the exact same edit summary: No source.
 * North Africa:
 * Moroccan cuisine:
 * Imad Hadar: All three of them edited this article which was created by "Atlaslion1912" on the 2nd of January. M.Bitton (talk) 15:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Upon further examination, it appears that has already established that the IP belongs to "Atlaslion1912". M.Bitton (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and deleted that IP's user page. GiantSnowman added  on the basis of this diff, where Atlaslion1912 acknowledged that 31.21.157.14 was their IP. Unfortunately, this particular template syntax has the effect of claiming that a CheckUser has verified that this IP does belong to Atlaslion1912; however, CheckUser cannot be used to link IPs and accounts per the privacy policy. If we wish, we can instead use IPsock on the IP's talk page. Mz7 (talk) 07:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * The link between Atlaslion1912 and the IP is admitted, see this. GiantSnowman 19:05, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * See also |this file on the Dutch Wikipedia. --Daniuu (talk) 21:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Closing—please see below. Mz7 (talk) 07:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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Lala Migos has been blocked on nl-wiki for abusing multiple accounts to make dubious edits on Morocco-related topics. A fellow user alerted me on my talk page that this user became active here. It was reported that he started doing similar edits, like here on Bard Hari (a page that was previously vandalized on nl-wiki too). The username of Atlaslion1912 matches with the names of other socks and passes a duck test (like here). The third account also shows similar intrests, as are the IP's. Requesting CU to check whether accounts can be connected and eventual sleepers are present. Daniuu (talk) 21:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't spot the previous request for an investigation. for the previous socks that were active on the Dutch Wikipedia. --Daniuu (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Atlaslion1912 and Hozmaster are ✅ to Lala migos. . Atlass Lion is . from a CU standpoint, but because Atlaslion1912 has acknowledged that 31.21.157.14 is their IP, I will be blocking it as well. I don't think there's any need to deal with the stale accounts and IPs that haven't edited in several weeks; if they return to activity, then they can be re-reported. Global locks have already been requested. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 07:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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From what I can tell, Lala migos is a pro-Moroccan sock operator. Anyhow, this isn't a slam-dunk, so I'm hoping a CU can see whether there's any merit here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * At Talk:Nora Fatehi, Ucfberrada engaged in a prolonged discussion arguing that Fatehi should be described as "Moroccan-Canadian" in the intro sentence of the lede, based on their understanding of Moroccan law, which bestows citizenship to children of Moroccan citizens by default. The user felt so strongly about it, that they eventually got blocked for a week after lobbing personal attacks in the form of accusations of racism.
 * Atlaslion1912 was one of the more recent Lala migos socks to be CU blocked. Here we see them arguing that some sports figure should be described as French-Moroccan.
 * In this edit on GiantSnowman's talk page, Atlaslion1912 admits to editing while logged-out, from (Netherlands) Looking at their contributions, we find this edit at Nora Fatehi, where the editor wants her to be described as Moroccan-Canadian based on the laws of Morocco.
 * On the Nora Fatehi talk page, Ucfberrada mentioned that Emmanuelle Chriqui was an example of someone else who should be listed as Moroccan-Canadian. The IP editor has also edited that article about four times.

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 * ❌ as far as checkuser evidence goes...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:40, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm not sufficiently convinced by behaviour to overrule an unrelated result. Closing with no action. Blablubbs&#124;talk 23:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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Both users have been making essentially the same kind of edits (the IP seems to be older than the named account, so I've listed that as sockmaster). They react and write in similar ways on user talk pages (e.g. here, here, and here), although some of that resemblance could be chalked up to anger and non-native English skills. More to the point, there are occasions where both accounts use suspiciously identical or partly identical wording for edit summaries. For example: Hambra1 made multiple edits with the summary "legitimate edit that was unfairly rolled back" on March 9 (see their history that day), while 85.148.129.62 did the same thing for one edit here on the same day. Elsewhere, 85.148.129.62 made two edits (here and here) with summaries accusing previous reverts of being "by a pan Arabist" (an ideological term, but an odd one for two independent users to use at the same time), while Hambra1 did the same here on one of the same pages the next day.

I'm not confidant about the connection, but there's also resemblance to this previous case. Maybe M.Bitton or Drmies can say whether that connection looks likely or not. I also haven't requested a CheckUser before, but since it seems plausible that it's a case of WP:MEATPUPPET instead (with two people following closely each other's examples), this seemed like the only way to sort it out. That said, if it seems unnecessary that's fine too.

To be clear, I think this user (if it is the same user) is trying to make a legitimate contribution to Wikipedia, and 85.148.129.62's latest edits (on March 17) are finally starting to look like what such edits should look like, so it would be a shame. If they are sockpuppets, 85.148.129.62's allusion here to "multiple users who have already noticed and complained about this" (unclear who they could mean other than Hambra1) would suggest that they are consciously trying to exploit multiple accounts to create support. R Prazeres (talk) 00:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

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Dear CU clerk, move the whole lot to the Lala migos SPI. Hambra1 is CU-confirmed with Lala, and Atlaslion, and Hozmaster. What a shame. Drmies (talk) 01:06, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Can't merge this myself (I think? I still don't fully understand histmerges), but the sock is now tagged and . Blablubbs | talk 01:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Moved, IP blocked 1wk, closing, Cabayi (talk) 07:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Similar pattern of edits on Moroccan/Atlas/Berber-related topics. IP with high cross-wiki activity. The IP has more edits on nlwiki, where this intersection seems to be more than a weird coincidence (almost all pages IP edited on nlwiki were previously visited by other Lala migos socks). Daniuu (talk) 18:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * IP edits are too old, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)