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Yesterday, I finally got around to acting on the consensus at Talk:British Sri Lankans and redirected British Sri Lankan Tamil (created by Nsmutte sock ) to British Tamil. Within 24 hours, this had been reverted by new editor Sweatisoftheessence, who claims there is a lack of consensus. A look at Sweatisoftheessence's contributions reveals clear overlap with Lankandude2017 - compare this and this, for instance. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:37, 22 December 2018 (UTC) Cordless Larry (talk) 11:37, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinging, in light of comments at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive963. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:44, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sweatisoftheessence's response is reminiscent of Lankandude2017's. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:45, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * And the repeated addition of material about British Indians' political views, unsupported by the sources cited, is characteristic Lankandude2017 behaviour too (see Talk:British Sri Lankan Tamil). Cordless Larry (talk) 09:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There's also a shared interest in rail transport, e.g. this and this. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:23, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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, please see my comment on the cu wiki. I've placed cu info there for your review. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd be amazed if Lankandude2017 was Nsmutte - technically, behaviourally, in terms of their grasp of English. The last (unlisted) Nsmutte sock I saw was . No comment on what else might be going on here.. -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:32, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I only filed this under Nsmutte because Ivanvector had blocked Lankandude2017 as a sock of the former. Looking at some previous socks' behaviour, I don't see that Lankandude2017 and Sweatisoftheessence are related to Nsmutte. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:46, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't have access to checkuser when I blocked Lankandude2017 as a Nsmutte sock, that was based entirely on their pursuit of Bonadea and faking account signatures which are both Nsmutte hallmarks. I don't think a check was done at the time. It is entirely possible that Lankandude2017 was a completely different user who also behaved poorly in a conflict with Bonadea. However that doesn't mean that Lankandude2017 and Sweatisoftheessence aren't socks of each other, but I agree they're both probably not Nsmutte. A clerk should take a better look at those two accounts and I don't have time at the moment so I'm going to put this back to the open queue. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't see any reason to keep this open. Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Reopened per my comment above. If there is a determination, please move this report to its own case. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't understand waiting for a clerk, which could be a long wait. Two admins, Ivanvector and Cordless Larry, think the two accounts belong to the same person. Why can't one of you block the account? A new case can be created after that.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:27, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Given that this started with Sweatisoftheessence reverting an edit of mine, this could be seen as a content dispute in which I am involved, . I think that someone else needs to assess the evidence and make the block, if appropriate. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:36, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll look at it myself when I have time but I'm on the road today. I have a concern about whether Lankandude2017 should be blocked in the first place since my entire rationale for extending their original 1-week block was that they are Nsmutte, and now we're all agreeing they're not. I'll check back in this evening. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 11:32, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I would have thought that the behaviour that I outlined at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive963 would have merited a block regardless of any socking. Note that Sweatisoftheessence has just been blocked for three days for making personal attacks against me, too. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:27, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I see now: Lankandude2017 was already blocked (for a week) for that behaviour. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:44, 24 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree that Lankandude 2017 is not an Nsmutte sock, but just seems to have gotten in a dispute with Bonadea. GABgab 15:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's what I suggest for this case. I agree with the suspicion that Lankandude2017 and Sweatisoftheessence are the same editor. However, taking everything into consideration, I think that Lankandude2017's indef block (my block) was improper, and I think it's unfair to consider their creation of a new account sockpuppetry. They seem to be well on the way to being indeffed for other reasons anyway. I'm moving this to its own case, leaving the master blocked, and leaving the new account alone (it is currently blocked). If any admins disagree they can add their own actions on top of mine, but I think this is the simplest way to proceed. Thanks everyone. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:36, 25 December 2018 (UTC)