Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lceliku/Archive

Evidence submitted by Athenean
User:Lceliku was blocked for a week for posting this TOV on Talk:Albania. He was subsequently indef blocked for repeatedly re-posting this and other threats by block evasion using various IPs. Here Lceliku can be seen bragging about having "200 unused IP addresses". The IPs are thus most likely socks of Lceliku, although it also is possible the IPs could be those of the banned User:Sarandioti. Athenean (talk) 22:30, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users
Both of these users (i.e. lceliku and sarandioti) have been banned as reported by user:athenean, but there is a plethora of Albanian editors that have been reported by Athenean, such as kreshnik25, or guildenrich or I_Pakapshem and so on. In the spree of getting every Albanian editor banned (including myself), Athenean might make a little mess and the admin might fall into it. The culture of suspect is not what should be promoted in Encyclopedia. If the IP address is the same because these people are working from the same university, what happens: no student can edit in Wikipedia? I would thereby invite the admin to use caution here with blocking possible socks of people that might have nothing to do with user:lceliku or user:sarandioti. Thanks! sulmues (talk)--Sulmues 22:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Commment: Read WP:NOTTHEM.  Every single one of those users was a disruptive ultra-nationalist SPA, or a sock thererof (e.g. User:Kreshnik25).  And no, I am not trying to get you banned, this has nothing to do with you.  Athenean (talk) 22:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTTHEM is not applicable here because I am writing on the part of comments by other users, which would be my case. I am trying to help the admin understand that there are at least 5 users banned or blocked (all Albanians) because they were reported by you, and the socketpuppetry case you are promoting might not be as easy. sulmues (talk)--Sulmues 22:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * NOTTHEM applies because you are using this as a platform to attack me. So you're somehow implying that I have a thing against Albanian users?  That is ridiculous, as well as insulting.  Each of those banned users had a long history of disruption, edit-warring, sockpuppetry and whatnot.  They were banned after many months of disruption after they were given many chances.  And they were banned by impartial admins, not myself.  So you're essentially trying to blame me for their bans.  Unbelievable.  Your insinuations and accusations here and your wikistalking have crossed the line into harassment.  This SPI is none of your business, so kindly butt out and stop following me around. Athenean (talk) 23:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Everyone who gets blocked has to blame no one but himself, I am not accusing you of banning or blocking, because you are not an admin. I am just asking the admins to be careful when blocking an IP only because there is "suspect" that that IP might be the sock of another blocked/banned user. There are very few Albanian editors left and if you block the University IPs (especially small Albanian universities) lots of students cannot edit on wikipedia, and don't forget, students are excellent contributors. sulmues (talk)--Sulmues 14:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by Athenean (talk) 22:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * because the IPs and the account listed are blocked. Nothing else that could be facilitated by CU has been requested. Nathan  T 14:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)