Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Legendswillneverdie/Archive

08 November 2015

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Legendswillneverdie changed the release date on hip hop articles such as Jamal (rapper), Last Chance, No Breaks, Gangsta's Paradise (album), and The Mix Tape, Vol. 1 without citing any reliable sources. The user has been warned about these kinds of edits multiple times. I reverted the user's edits and added references. Then, a few minutes after the user posted a comment on my talk page, the 2600.1007 IPs appeared and reverted my edits to Legendswillneverdie's unsourced versions. I suspect that these IPs are Legendswillneverdie's sockpuppets. 153.173.78.114 (talk) 06:45, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Just added 70.194.7.81, who also reverted my edit to Legendswillneverdie's unsourced version at Gangsta's Paradise (album). All of these three IPs are from Michigan, and they support Legendswillneverdie's edits in violation of the Verifiability policy. I don't think it is a coincidence. 153.173.65.195 (talk) 15:25, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Added two more 2600.1007 IPs from Michigan, who also reverted my edits to Legendswillneverdie's unsourced versions at Last Chance, No Breaks, The Mix Tape, Vol. 1, and Gangsta's Paradise (album). I believe that my edits are valid and Legendswillneverdie's sockpuppetry is obvious. If I'm wrong, please let me know. 153.230.246.61 (talk) 16:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * If these are him, I need to note that these were all done after he received a very strong warning about the specific reasons why we need sourcing. In other words, he's already received his warning (ie, his WP:ROPE) and this would likely be him trying to avoid detection. The evidence here does appear compelling and if this is him, then this would be enough to give him a block for continued disruptive behavior. I'm not entirely familiar with IPs and sockpuppetry (ie, if IPs can count as sockpuppets if that's all there is and the main account isn't blocked), mostly I want to keep abreast of this to see if the IPs are him before proceeding with a block. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  14:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm pinging on this as well to give his opinion. If neither he nor I are here if this comes back as confirmed, then I'd highly endorse a block at this point. He's had his warning. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  14:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * I blocked the master for IP socking, and I'm closing this.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:16, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

27 November 2015

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Another IP sock from Michigan. Just like his previous sock 70.194.7.81, 70.194.7.124 started changing the release dates at hip hop album articles without citing a reliable source. 153.206.103.88 (talk) 20:29, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:25, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

29 December 2015

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Another 70.194 IP sock from Michigan appeared again. Today, 70.194.8.69 reverted my edit and restored Legendswillneverdie's unsourced and incorrect revision at 2000 in hip hop music (see and ). In the past, Legendswillneverdie got blocked for the same kind of IP socking two times. I think we need a long-term block on them now. 153.228.38.88 (talk) 01:17, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Master blocked for two weeks. IP not active any more. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

22 February 2016

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The IP sock from Michigan appeared again. Like the previous sockpuppets, which can be seen at Sockpuppet investigations/Legendswillneverdie/Archive, the user repeatedly changes hip hop albums' release dates without citing any reliables sources. For example, both Legendswillneverdie and 2600:1007:B011:59C7:8CD1:6DFC:B295:22C1 removed Quality Control (album), which I added Metacritic as a source, from "June 6" at 2000 in hip hop music. Legendswillneverdie keeps doing this kind of IP socking in spite of having been blocked three times, and this is the fourth time I open this investigation. I believe they have already gotten all the rope they need. 153.218.164.157 (talk) 02:39, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' I will admit that I did use an IP address to correct a release date without citing a source. I understand what I did was wrong & for that I sincerely apologize. The next time I correct a release date, I will try & cite a reliable source

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 * Master blocked for a month (this is not the first time he's been IP-socking). Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  00:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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Another IP from Michigan (cf. the previous cases) keeps changing the release date at hip hop album articles, mostly without citing any reliable sources (diff diff). Sometimes they cite a source, but they write an edit summary with exactly the same wording, saying, "Corrected release date & cited a source" (diff diff). They changed "an album" to "the six album" at the same article (diff diff). Also, they frequently edit articles like 1996 in hip hop music and 2016 in hip hop music.

Having been blocked four times because of the disruptive logged-out editing, Legendswillneverdie received the final warning from an administrator in March 2016 (diff). 153.230.136.184 (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Update 1: At It's Dark and Hell Is Hot, where the source states that it was released on 12 May 1998, Legendswillneverdie changed the release date to 19 May 1998 (diff). At Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em, 97.70.2.188 removed the source and changed the release date (diff). At AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted, where the source states that it was released on 16 May 1990, s/he changed the release date to 15 May 1990 (diff). Could someone please block them? 153.206.83.132 (talk) 16:11, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Update 2: At 2003 in hip hop music, where the source states that an album was released on 26 May 2003, 97.70.2.188 removed the source and changed the release date to 17 June 2003 (diff). At The True Meaning, 97.70.2.188 changed the release date without citing any reliable sources (diff). Could someone please block them? 153.207.208.92 (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Update 3: At Songs in A Minor, 97.70.2.188 changed the release date without citing any reliable sources (diff diff). Could someone please block them? 153.166.66.136 (talk) 04:20, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:22, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * IP now inactive, closing. GABgab 01:02, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * GAB, that IP I just hardblocked for a year. I believe you must have looked at the wrong IP because the above is static and active.

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Since 2 July 2017, 69.14.175.253 keeps changing content at hip hop album articles and hip hop artist articles in violation of WP:V and WP:BLP. I suspect that Legendswillneverdie and 69.14.175.253 have been operated by the same person.

For example, at Thug Life: Volume 1, both users replaced "September 26, 1994" with "October 11, 1994" without citing any reliable sources (diff, diff).

At 1212 (album), both users replaced "featuring The Alchemist and Evidence" with "featuring Step Brothers" and replaced "featuring Ill Bill, Reef the Lost Cauze and Vinnie Paz" with "featuring Heavy Metal Kings and Reef the Lost Cauze" (diff, diff).

At Born Like This, both users replaced "a studio album" with "the sixth studio album" without citing any reliable sources (diff, diff).

At Lateef the Truthspeaker, both users added the unsourced date of birth (diff, diff).

Some of their changes have been already reverted by other users such as Binksternet, Dan56, and Koala15. Addtionally, Vanjagenije warned Legendswillneverdie to stop abusing multiple accounts, writing, "You were already blocked because of the disruptive logged-out editing, but you continued that behavior. Nest time, it might be indefinite block" (diff). 153.204.98.36 (talk) 22:45, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * I don't see the violation of WP:MULTIPLE which would make this a serious case. The editor interaction tool shows that these two have really only edited one article in quick succession (six minutes apart), and if you look at all the contributions at Loyalty Is Royalty you will see that there is a complete lack of edit warring as a tag team. Binksternet (talk) 23:43, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Most of the diffs in the original poster's evidence section are separated by a lot of time, for instance 22 months for Lateef the Truthseeker, and two years for Thug Life: Volume 1. Rather than treat this as a sockpuppet problem, I would treat it as one account which makes some troublesome edits. Binksternet (talk) 23:52, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * - The diffs presented above are all hallmarks of this account. Please block the IP temporarily, and make good on Vanjagenije's warning from last March to block the account indefinitely, since they have continued to edit disruptively while logged out. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:26, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. GABgab 15:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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Legendswillneverdie repeatedly changed release date and track listing at hip hop album articles, most of the times without providing a reliable source and against MOS:ALBUM. The user has been indefinitely blocked for abusing multiple accounts. Since November 2017, the Michigan IP 69.14.107.246 restored Legendswillneverdie's edits. For example, compare diff 1 and diff 2 at Nas & Ill Will Records Presents QB's Finest; diff 3 and diff 4 at Recovery (Eminem album); diff 5 and diff 6 at A Better Tomorrow (album). I suspect that 69.14.107.246 is another IP sock of Legendswillneverdie. 153.228.133.142 (talk) 06:11, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP edits too old. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:34, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

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Legendswillneverdie and Musicjunkie96 changed the release date on The Mix Tape, Vol. 1 (diff, diff), as well as on Gangsta's Paradise (album) (diff, diff). Both users added "and final" to the lead section on Sweep the Leg (diff, diff). On User talk:Musicjunkie96, another user has already pointed out that Musicjunkie96 is a block evasion by Legendswillneverdie (diff). 153.230.11.142 (talk) 10:13, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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Based on the CU log and the behavioral evidence, Musicjunkie96 is. Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)