Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LethalHobo/Archive

Report date April 2 2010, 15:07 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

You can see here: Talk:Prairie_dog that User:LethalHobo appears to have written the comment, but then a bot signed it as User:58.6.127.233.
 * Evidence submitted by JeffJ (talk)

LethalHobo was engaged in a heated debate at Talk:List of unusual deaths and the edit history reveals that his entries originated at 58.6.127.233. During these entries, LethalHobo calls me things like "faggot". Then 58.6.127.233 blanked my user page.

The comments and insults also closely resemble comments and insults ("dick") made here: Talk:Dyatlov Pass incident by User:BrendanFrye but there is no concrete evidence that I'm able to provide. JeffJ (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

So your assuming that I wrote "dick" because I wrote faggot in a different section. (Which I removed). You a obviously on a hunt for me and I appreciate if you cease immediately. LethalHobo 9:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I made no assumption. I merely wanted the possibility investigated. But as you can see, you both have a penchant for drama and hyperbole. --JeffJ (talk) 01:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

There is no evidence that supports any sort of relation between Me and BrendanFrye. You cannot acuse us of sock puppetry. One can normally be a bit peeved when accused of Sock Pupptry. You have NO evidence of Sock Puppetry, None whatsoever except your paranoia. —Preceding undated comment added 01:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC).


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

This is nothing more than wiki stalking and harrasment, user is acting in bad faith and abusing the system. Please, feel free to run the check user. Let me know if you need any additional information. After this, I would like it if this user would leave me alone, I'll do my best to avoid him/her as I have previously stated. BrendanFrye (talk) 17:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not stalking or harassing. I only mentioned that your style (i.e., angry and insulting) resembles the main accused in this case. I wouldn't be surprised if you have no association with the accused, but after years of editing suddenly being called a "dick" (several times) and a "faggot" by two different users in a very short space of time seemed too coincidental. So, in good faith, I presented the information I had for investigation.--JeffJ (talk) 21:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

You can not assume that someone is guilty because of similarity of insults. You are obviously on a hunt against Me and BrendanFrye because we disagreed with you on the unusual deaths article. For one, I only replied with faggot after an JeffJ insulted me after me conceding, and two when I did write that I removed it 10 minutes later because I thought it was inappopriate. JeffJ is obviously on a hunt for me after I had insulted him but I had removed that comment 10 minutes later. Similarity of insults is not a cause for investigation. It took a lot of guts for me to concede as I was very passionate, and JeffJ stated "It must have been hard writing through those tears" I was pretty insulted. So I wrote an Innapropriate comment. JeffJ s only point is an insult that was on the discussion page for 10 minutes. I do not deserve to be under investigation for that. He is obviously on a hunt. LethalHobo 10:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Let's not forget that you blanked my user-page. --JeffJ (talk) 01:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I did not blank your user page.JeffJ is harrassing Me and BrendanFrye.I would appreciate it if you would cease the harrasment.LethalHobo 11:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that it's pretty clear that LethalHobo used IP 58.6.127.233 as a sockpuppet (rather than accidentally forgetting to log in) as he/she is denying blanking my page while operating under that IP. As BrendanFrye, I'm fairly confident that, while his behaviour was poor, he was not engaged in sockpuppetry. An apology to BrendanFrye will be extended. --JeffJ (talk) 02:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I would think that by denying the actions committed by IP 58.6.127.233 (and protesting of harassment), LethalHobo is trying to give the appearance of two different individuals for the purpose of deception. --JeffJ (talk) 02:24, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I am not deceiving anybody. I merely stated that I would like the harrassment to cease and that I did not edit your page.LethalHobo 12:27 3/04/10 (UTC)


 * Comments by other users

Requested by JeffJ (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Declining checkuser for the IP per WP:DUCK reasons, and lack of evidence for BrendanFrye. It's pretty obvious that the IP is LethalHobo, however I see no evidence that Brendan Frye is related to the two. Auntie E. (talk) 00:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Auntie E. and see no connection between BrendanFrye and LethalHobo. That being said, LethalHobo, it doesn't help your case to deny such things so vehemently, and to try to take it out on others.  The IP in question is very clearly LethalHobo, as it has made all of the edits signed by LethalHobo here.  However, never did either the IP or LethalHobo try to deny the connection (Aside from the blanking, which the IP in question DID do) nor log in and out to try to give the appearance of two different individuals.  As blocks are preventative and not punitive, I'm taking no action here.  LethalHobo, I would strongly suggest you log in if you want to make your edits; as far as we know, the IP is just someone trying to make you look bad.  Moreover, stay civil or you will be blocked.  There's no need for that kind of vitriol. ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 02:13, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I will make sure that I am logged in when I make edits. I apologize for my attitude as I was bit annoyed at being accused of Sock Puppetry. LethalHobo 12:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)