Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LiamNolan24/Archive

31 October 2012

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LiamNolan24 and I have been engaged in a discussion here for several days now. LiamNolan24 wanted to shorten the plot summaries at Once Upon a Time (season 2) by a wide margin, and was reverted. The user opened discussion on the talk page, where I countered their views with reasonable arguments. It went on for a little, but once Tvlover96 and Creativity97 expressed that they also opposed LiamNolan24's views, the user said consensus was reached. I reminded LiamNolan24 that consensus is not a voting process, and then 108.218.194.152 came in. This new IP editor came out of nowhere, and heavily reiterated LiamNolan24's views. The IP has only made one other edit besides the comment at the discussion, and I find it highly unlikely that the IP would know how to wikilink. Further, LiamNolan24 edited at 22:46, the IP made the comment at 22:52, and LiamNolan24 edited again at 23:03. It appears LiamNolan24 logged out, made the comment, and logged back in; the time frame matches up perfectly. In addition, why would this random IP reiterate the exact same views as LiamNolan24 so firmly and quickly? WP:DUCK in my opinion. TRLIJC19 ( talk  •  contribs ) 23:30, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * Looking at areas of interest and edit summary usage, the IP looks the same as User:LiamNolan15212 (compare, ), so the connection with LiamNolan24 seems reasonably clear. Note though that LiamNolan15212 is not a sockpuppet as it seems the account was abandoned when LiamNolan24 was registered. The user has been warned for edit warring and was reported at AN3 for such behaviour in March, although no action was taken at the time (see archived report). They seem to accept that consensus is against their change , but lashing out like  afterwards is not a good sign. (The comment was  9 minutes later, though). Jafeluv (talk) 07:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * So you're agreeing that the IP is in fact a sockpuppet of LiamNolan24, correct? TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:17, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. Three edits of course isn't a lot to base a judgment on, but they're editing the same pages, using identical edit summaries and arguing for the same point of view in the discussion. Editing while logged out is not prohibited per se, but it's not ok to comment as an IP to try to make it appear that one's position has more support than it actually has. Jafeluv (talk) 15:21, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - I don't think this case merits linking the account with the above IP at this time, per privacy policy - A l is o n  ❤ 07:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you declining checkuser, because I never requested it. If you're saying it's not okay to establish a connection between an IP and a user, please see Sockpuppet investigations/TBrandley/Archive – users have been matched to IPs before, and blocks have been administered. Two users above, myself included, have noted the obvious connection between the user and IP. The idea that the user could get away without punishment is a bit astounding. TRLIJC19  ( talk  •  contribs ) 17:30, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting they get away without sanction ("punishment", as you put it), but I'm saying that I don't want to comment about a link between their account and IP addresses, as I don't think they're actions are egregious enough to warrant it. Checkuser is often a balance between WP:SOCK and WP:PRIVACY - A l is o n  ❤ 22:52, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * There is no doubt that the IP was used abusively by LiamNolan24. However, the last edit was 11 days ago, the couple of talk page edits made no difference to anything, and there seems no point in a block at this time. I will, however, post a warning to LiamNolan24. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:28, 13 November 2012 (UTC)