Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lionel Messi Lover/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
First of all, let me clarify that there is no difference between and. Chennai Super Kings Lover changed there name to Lionel Messi Lover. This can be proved here. As for the case, also is a redirect to. I might not need to explain too much. User talk:Lionel Messi Lover says everything for itself. On being asked by and then by  about sockpuppetery they said Sorry, I didn't knew the WP:SOCK policy and I will it as soon as possible. Later when another account is suspected by DaxServer named Although this isn't registered on English Wikipedia then once again say Sorry for the inconveniences as I mistakenly logged in with that account while logging in at Wikimedia Commons. I will soon disclose that account ThanK You. WP:SOCKLEGIT says that Alternative accounts should always be identified as such on their user pages, unless where doing so would defeat the point of the account. User page not Talk Page. They are yet to do this even after being asked to do so more than 11 and then 9 months ago.
 * Lionel Messi Lover: Wikipedia contributions - Commons contributions - active on Wikipedia and Commons. does not declare alternative accounts.
 * Diamond Leveler: Wikipedia contributions - Commons contributions - active on Wikipedia and Commons. does not declare alternative accounts.
 * Settings gujrti: Commons contributions - active on Commons November 2022 to January 2023; never used on Wikipedia.
 * Interaction editor shows an overlap. Now I noticed it a while ago but the account Diamond Leveler was not active so I thought they have abandoned it. But now they are using both the accounts simultaneously. And as for interests, their contribution history shows that both have common interest in Indian politics and North-east India.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 18:38, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Here the user has accepted that they are using more than one account. Once again this should have been declared at the user page. Which they haven't even after being asked to.
 * Revision as of 17:51, 10 November 2022
 * Revision as of 19:02, 14 January 2023
 * Both are mobile differences. If someone is on desktop and can't see this please visit User talk:Lionel Messi Lover. Everything is present there.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 18:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Dear and @Ivanvector

I am writing this letter in response to the sockpuppet investigation that has been initiated against me. I want to clarify and defend my position, as I believe I have not violated the conditions outlined in Wikipedia's policies regarding alternative accounts.

First and foremost, I would like to emphasize my commitment to upholding the integrity and transparency of Wikipedia. I fully understand the importance of adhering to the guidelines and policies that govern the use of alternative accounts. I am writing this letter to address any concerns and provide a clear explanation of my actions.

I maintain multiple accounts on Wikipedia, and I want to assure the community that these accounts serve legitimate and transparent purposes. I have not used these accounts to mislead, deceive, disrupt, or undermine consensus in any way. They are used solely to facilitate different aspects of my contributions to the Wikipedia community.

I understand that the use of alternative accounts should be transparent, and I am committed to providing that transparency. I believe in open communication and collaboration with fellow Wikipedia editors. If there have been any misunderstandings or concerns about my actions, I am more than willing to engage in a constructive dialogue to address them.

I would like to reiterate my dedication to Wikipedia's core principles and policies. I have always strived to contribute constructively and ethically to this community, and I am fully aware of the consequences of violating the guidelines. I believe that through open communication and cooperation, we can resolve any concerns and ensure that my contributions align with Wikipedia's values.

I appreciate your attention to this matter and your commitment to maintaining the quality and credibility of Wikipedia. I look forward to engaging in a discussion to address any concerns and provide further clarification about the purpose and usage of my multiple accounts.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely, User:Lionel Messi Lover — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lionel Messi Lover (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 23:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ivanvector since the user has assured that he would use multiple accounts only for legitimate and transparent purposes, I don't have any problem closing this. If he does in the future we can come back here.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 03:17, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Also @Lionel Messi Lover please consider signing your comments always. I have marked it for you above. Although not mandatory as said by Ivan, I would suggest you to declare your multiple accounts on your userpage just like the checkuser has to avoid this thing happening in future.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 03:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ivanvector correct my if I am wrong. @Lionel Messi Lover looking at your contributions it is clear that you are active on daily basis. Yet you don't seem bother to come here and reply/follow the instructions given. The checkuser has below asked you to declare your accounts on your userpage. If you don't want to do this, then you have to contact the arbitration committee. If you are choosing the second option then please inform us or please declare your accounts. If you are not bothered to do any of these inline the given instructions and continue to ignore this, then I would request the (involved) checkuser to see if something can be done about this keeping in by that he has actually violated the policy as highlighted by checkuser himself.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 05:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Done✓ Lionel Messi Lover (talk) 08:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Lionel Messi Lover Good we can close this for now.  ShaanSengupta  Talk 14:27, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * simply using multiple accounts is not grounds for a sockpuppetry investigation; I have three accounts myself. Disclosure is recommended but rarely required. You must provide evidence to demonstrate that the accounts are being used in a way that violates the sockpuppetry policy. Can you elaborate? This will be closed with no action if you do not. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:08, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you for your explanation. I believe you're acting in good faith, but actually you have violated the policy. The sixth bullet in the WP:ILLEGIT section of the policy reads that users may not contribute to the same page or discussion with multiple undisclosed alternate accounts, and you have several times. You will need to disclose for the accounts identified here - you can do this by adding the user alternative account template to the accounts' user pages. If you have other accounts you're using for legitimate purposes and want to keep them private, you can contact the Arbitration Committee. Thank you.
 * Procedurally per above. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:19, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Closing, as the user has declared their alternative account. Spicy (talk) 10:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)