Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LittleDipper/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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Common interests. Do not seem to have edited at the same time as each other. SoP began editing regularly soon after LD was indefinitely blocked.


 * Renaming Jesus to a Jewish variation of the name, LD "Joshua" (see here) or SoP "rabbi Jeshua" (see here).
 * Edit warring over the foundations of the Western world. LD here and SoP here, both using the exact same reference "Horst Hutter, University of New York, Shaping the Future: Nietzsche's New Regime of the Soul And Its Ascetic Practices (2004), p.111:three mighty founders of Western culture, namely Socrates, Jesus, and Plato."
 * Also a general issue of incompetence, along with a strange pattern of spelling errors where the last letter from one word is added to the next. See LD here ("ar eindicagive") and SoP here ("doe snot").

Pinging User:Katolophyromai and User:Joshua Jonathan as they appear to have history with both accounts. Also pinging User:FyzixFighter as he said at AN3 he thought SoP is a sock of someone. Hrodvarsson (talk) 13:56, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

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He is indeed. See the sock edits at Special:Contributions/ShamashMaimonides, almost exclusively about Evangelion, which also appears at. I was wrong about him being a conservative, he had self-identified at as the author of https://www.amazon.com/dp/1524627607/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk, who is certainly no orthodox Christian (heretic would be more appropriate, I'm not using the word as a slur, but simply descriptively, as historians of Christianity do). The attacks upon liberals at Talk:Jesus are tomfoolery, since I stated at WP:AN3 that he isn't Gonzales John because GJ is a liberal (I was wrong that SOP would be a conservative). Tgeorgescu (talk) 17:29, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I also think he's Gonzales John. Reasons:
 * same interests editorinteract
 * same agressive edit-warring (see user-talkpages for the amount of warnings)
 * same typos
 * same obsessive aversion against Christ Myth Theory:
 * Gonzales John User Contributions to CMT: mass-reverts, edit-warring, agressive stance
 * ScepticismOfPopularisation, at Origins of Christianity: Talk:Origins of Christianity, Talk:Origins of Christianity, Talk:Origins of Christianity
 * same "archiving" of talkpage-threads by deleting them: GJ "cleaning/archiving", subpages sandbox; SOP "purge; archiving page", subpages none.
 * knowledge of obscure policies/essays (WP:SKYISBLUE), which is strange for newbies
 * Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  18:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I think most of the circumstantial evidence that establishes the pattern (in terms of areas of interest, added content, and especially behavior) between GJ and SOP (and LD and the other various sockpuppets) has already been stated. Honestly, one of the biggest questions I had was with regard to the large gap between the last GJ sock (Dec 2016) and the appearance SOP (Jul 2017). Well, know we what GJ was up to. Certainly the edits by connects the LD socks and the GJ socks pretty strongly. Some other similarities that I noticed between GJ and SOP/LD:
 * GJ's known IP socks ( and ) and SOP's self-admitted ip (see and )  resolve to the Philippines.
 * LD's signature "Anu-Dingir" is similar to several of the name of a GJ sock (and possibly )
 * Both GJ and SOP often inserted new (and controversial) images at the start of articles and sections
 * GJ and SOP overlapped a little bit in an editwar over the inclusion of the McGrath image (GJ:, SOP: )
 * I'm sure I'd find more if I dig into the additional LD socks.
 * Given the apparent connection between GJ and LD, is there a way to confirm it and, if it checks out, to combine the two SPIs? --FyzixFighter (talk) 00:54, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * ✅ plus:
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Suspected sockpuppets



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Common interests. UH was a dormant account similar to those seen in Sockpuppet investigations/LittleDipper/Archive; began editing regularly a while after sock ScepticismOfPopularisation was blocked. LD and SoP are stale but requesting CU as there might be other accounts as before. Hrodvarsson (talk) 01:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Dummy edit and multiple self-reversions on Wax in order to become auto-confirmed.
 * Catholic Church: UH's first edit to the article was to the same paragraph as SoP's first edit to the article.
 * Western world: Somewhat similar edit/edit summary by LD and UH. Displays narrow and overlapping area of interest.

There probably are other examples but it seems clear already given the common interests. Hrodvarsson (talk) 00:52, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * SeaMOnchter also did the 'dummy edit and self-reversions to become auto-confirmed' shtick.
 * 1205dz's edits to Philippines-related articles line up with SoP being a self-admitted Philippines-based sock.
 * Both SoP and SeaMOnchter changed the image of an obscure template.


 * Both UH and VVirre return from editing breaks on the same day . Also ALLCAPS for emphasis when edit warring seen from both VVirre and SoP. Hrodvarsson (talk) 23:07, 24 October 2018 (UTC)


 * UH making a similar edit about the foundation of the Western world, as did LD. Note that LD added the same source ("Cambridge University Historical Series") that UH is editing "according to". Hrodvarsson (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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✅ to each other and to the master based on multiple ranges:

but using different devices

. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  04:10, 18 October 2018 (UTC)