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02 August 2011

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They all seem to edit same pages and add unsourced material. User is totally non-responsive to the list of comments and warnings on his page as well, so can not ask him. And they seem to interleave their edits. History2007 (talk) 14:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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I have given the main account a 48-hour block for blatant edit warring (irrespective of whether sockpuppetry is involved or not). — Satori Son 21:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The autoblock was enabled for one of the IPs. The first two IPs here are in the same area, whereas the 89 IP geolocates to another continent. I've blocked the first two IPs for three days. Relist as necessary, or go to WP:RFPP to have the articles protected if it continues. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I hope he will just stop. History2007 (talk) 05:00, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

01 September 2011

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user:Lloydbaltazar was permanently blocked. The IPs which were temporarily blocked are doing the same edits now History2007 (talk) 20:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

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 * —  Kudu ~I/O~ 21:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

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98.141.213.201 blocked 3 months. 38.121.23.173 (was in previous investigation) seems to have renewed activity. Reblocked it for 2 weeks. Elockid  ( Talk ) 22:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

06 September 2011

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Same pages as other IPs, and location is also in S. California, as in User talk:Lloydbaltazar. I wonder if this will ever end.... He just gets new IPs.... History2007 (talk) 20:26, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked for a few weeks. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

31 December 2011

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{98.148.213.201 is a confirmed sock puppet, and is doing the same edit again, removing references, etc. History2007 (talk) 21:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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 * IP already blocked by 7. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 19:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

13 January 2012

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Repeat performance of editing same articles as before. .  Elizium23 (talk) 12:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Update: user has responded to a template left on his talk page. Many edits are converging on being constructive. Perhaps we should give benefit of the doubt here? Elizium23 (talk) 03:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Edits the same pages, just too obvious. Persistent puppet as in User talk:98.148.213.201 History2007 (talk) 05:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked the IP, but, I don't know, I guess we can give them enough rope on this one. Relist if it gets unconstructive.. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 05:53, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

03 February 2012

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Meat puppet making increasingly disruptive edits, such as original research, content removal, POV-pushing, and unreliable sources, not to mention personal attacks. Elizium23 (talk) 20:28, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I forgot to add, misrepresenting copyrighted work as his own and uploading it to Commons. Elizium23 (talk) 22:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * This multi-user account needs a "personal butler" to clean up after them as they "invent material". The amount of effort it has taken to clean up this rampant series of edits is amazing. This effort could have gone to better, productive use. This group of people (whoever they are) just "invent things", and just walk over WP:RS at will. They invented a new doctrine here, and on the now deleted talk page there, even admitted that it was "a pious invention". As I said on the Afd page, these peopel eat up time faster than Pac-Man gobbles up things. They are a detriment to progress in Wikipedia, and are turning it into Inventopedia with new inventions of their own. History2007 (talk) 21:28, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not convinced of the similarity, but the combative quality of LFM's interaction leaves a lot to be desired. Mangoe (talk) 22:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for stopping LFM. So that answers why LFM is always present.  He/she was leaving rude remarks about other editors in Talk:Manila Cathedral and made a lot of mess on the article. - Briarfallen (talk) 03:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * IMO, this personal attack constitutes the last straw. Antique Rose &mdash; Drop me a line  12:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Is there a Nobel Prize in persistence? If so we should nominate this splendid group for it: please see Special:Contributions/38.121.23.173... Wikipedia may be entering a new phase where a group of determined users can over-run the system. History2007 (talk) 19:45, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Rope was handed out previously, and it delivered. On behavioral grounds, I've blocked and tagged LoveForMary as a sock of Lloydbaltazar. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 14:43, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

05 February 2012

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Evading block. Has identified himself as being the same person as LoveforMary. Elizium23 (talk) 19:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked 3 months. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:48, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

13 February 2012

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Another suspected sockpuppet from Lloydbaltazar & Company, editing the same topics, and especially those concerning Our Lady, Luis Antonio Tagle, ‎and the Philippines. Another editor brought this to light. Antique Rose &mdash; Drop me a line  02:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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Yes, they are back.... again.... Will probably be back again in 3-4 weeks as usual. History2007 (talk) 09:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * - Endorsing to see if this account picked up where LoveforMary left off. Confirmation and sleepers, please. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 03:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅, . TN X Man  14:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Marking for close. TN X Man  16:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

18 February 2012

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Back already: editing the same articles as before. Elizium23 (talk) 11:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked 3 months. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 15:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

02 March 2012

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Edits same articles as all the others: Kateri Tekakwitha, Pedro Calungsod, Immaculate Conception. again. Elizium23 (talk) 20:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Second IP edits:   Elizium23 (talk) 20:46, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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 * I like how this case didn't have diffs comparing the IPs to the master. Anyway, I've blocked the IPs for a month each. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 06:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

11 May 2012

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Like Lloydbaltazar, likes to edit Catholic Church article, Our Lady of Perpetual Help, like LoveforMary, edits Saint Peter article, speaks in Tagalog and edits Philippine-related saint articles. Elizium23 (talk) 18:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

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I'm sorry, but checkuser does not generally disclose connections between IPs and named accounts. Any action taken will need to be based on behavioral evidence. TN X Man 20:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Total duck on the basis of recent behaviour, plus the fact that this IP has repeatedly been blocked for block evasion in the past. I have blocked for two years this time. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

22 June 2012

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Same topics as Lloydbaltazar and LoveforMary; Filipino Catholic articles (also ), Marian articles, particularly Immaculate Conception-related (also ). This one actually seems to be taking care not to edit exactly the same articles as before. Sent several messages about possible sockpuppetry and responded with silence; although this one does know how to use a talk page. Elizium23 (talk) 13:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * - Can't CU as older cases are stale. Will have to be determined on behavior only, which looks pretty much like a match so far. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  13:43, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged as a WP:DUCK matching sock of Lloydbaltazar. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;  13:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

26 June 2012

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Blocked for three months, this IP has begun editing again on exactly the same articles. Suggest increasing blocks on all related IPs, this is a prolific and persistent abuser. Elizium23 (talk) 09:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * IP has not edited in a week, so no action taken. Please report again if they resume. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

30 June 2012

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Another. Filipino Catholic topics, Immaculate Conception-related topics, and Catholic Church article. Accused by the perceptive History2007 with silence as a response. Elizium23 (talk) 08:34, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

16 July 2012

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Edits in topic: Catholic Church in the Philippines   Catholic Church article:  and Kateri Tekakwitha article:  (same as LoveforMary: ). Elizium23 (talk) 04:58, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged as a suspected sock (non-CU block). Elockid  ( Talk ) 20:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

19 August 2012

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. Appeared after we whack-a-moled the last sock. As always, Filipino Catholic articles, Catholic Church, Catholic Marian doctrines, Immaculate Conception. Elizium23 (talk) 13:01, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  22:15, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

04 March 2014 (LimosaCorel)

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This user was edit-warring on Lent earlier today. Then the IP picked up where the user left off. A massive edit war ensued. semi-protected the article. I put the material back in that this editor and the IP had been edit-warring out. The named user reverted me immediately, I started a section on the talk page to discuss, but the named user has not yet engaged there. It seems clear that the two are the same and the named user is editing while logged out to avoid scrutiny. &mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 04:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * Both blocked for three days. Closing now. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

31 March 2014

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Please note that LimosaCorel was named as a sockmaster in Sockpuppet investigations/LimosaCorel. First edit ever was to create a Philippines-Marian-Catholic-related article. Then there was a church in the Philippines. Archdiocese of Manila. Lately, adding unsourced information to Pope Francis article, including his own photos uploaded to Commons under dubious copyright status. Unwilling to speak English in discussions. Logged-out editing on Immaculate Conception article.. Elizium23 (talk) 18:26, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * LimosaCorel arrived on the scene 2.5 months after Lloydbaltazar's previous sock was blocked. So they represent a contiguous presence here. Elizium23 (talk) 01:06, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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There is similarity between the user profiles of LimosaCorel and LoveforMary`and Lloydbaltazar], for the times of day of activity on Wikipedia. The geographical location of the IP 2606:6000:80c1:6900:xxx edits is consonant with the idea that they are by the same user logged out and continuing to edit the same articles, before logging in again. The interests of LimosaCorel have similarity with those of LoveforMary and Lloybaltazar and HeartyBowl1989 and Succursu and Tomlin87721. Esoglou (talk) 10:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * LimosaCorel's editing patterns look quite suspicious based on the evidence provided. However, given that we can't run a CheckUser (the master and all known socks are stale), we have to be very certain based on behavioral evidence alone to block, especially since LimosaCorel has been here since 2012. Requesting the opinion of another clerk. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:54, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm comfortable enough with the evidence provided that LimosaCorel is a sock of Lloydbaltazar, the editing pattern, interest area, focus on Immaculate Conception plus the times of day that the edits are made. The IP addresses all geolocate to Herndon, VA. I'll leave the final decision to you, but I support blocking as a sockpuppet. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:53, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * This is what I had in mind as well. LimosaCorel has been blocked indef, 2606:6000:80C1:6900::/64 has been blocked for 1 week. Closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

03 September 2014

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Same affection for the Immaculate Conception, same affinity for Filipino Marian topics, IP address in question geolocates to Southern California, although it is a bit north of the previous ones. IPv4 and username are the same person because they share edits to Papal bull, Santo Niño de Cebú, and List of Images with Canonical Coronation‎ (newly created, obscure article). Adding IPv6 on a hunch, contribs have a lot of overlap with the others. Elizium23 (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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IP 2605:E000:2181:A400:... is identical with that involved in the 31 March 2014 investigation. The editing history of Crowned Marian images in the Philippines shows an identity between TreasureIslandMediaBoss and the user of IP 2605:E000:2181:A400:... The coincidence of interests and of IP suggests that TreasureIslandMediaBoss is indeed the same editor as LimosaCorel, who was blocked indefinitely as a LloydBaltazar sock.

IP 172.249.58.187 is geographically distinct from IP 2605:E000:2181:A400:... but, as Elizium says, it more or less fits some IPs involved in earlier LloydBalthazar investigations, and there is a general coincidence of interests between each of the three groups of edits that Elizium23 now mentions and those of earlier LloyBalthazar socks. The difference in the time patterns of the editing by TreasureIslandMediaBoss and IP 2605:E000:2181:A400:... on the one hand and IP 172.249.58.187 on the other fits the difference between east and west of the United States. I cannot judge whether the short gap between the edit at 02:40 UTC today in the east and that at 05:23 UTC in the west is explainable by travel or in some other way, or whether on the contrary it shows that the editors were not identical. Esoglou (talk) 11:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

I think there were similar geographical conundrums in earlier LloydBaltazar investigations, but I beg to be excused from checking just now the accuracy of my memory. Esoglou (talk) 11:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

That TreasureIslandMediaBoss is using IP 172.249.58.187 is made even more evident by his continuing as an IP editor his heated conversation as TreasureIslandMediaBoss here. Perhaps his immediate deletion of that edit as an IP editor was due to finding he had logged out from his user name. Esoglou (talk) 07:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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I'm not sure why no one else had anything to say about this report, but IMO it's all too stale to do anything with now. I'm closing this report. If you see new evidence, please don't hesitate to file a new SPI. Be aware, by the way, that if you're considering a Checkuser request, it's generally not permitted (by policy) to do a CU involving IP addresses. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 04:35, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

19 October 2014

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Same affection for the Immaculate Conception, same affinity for Filipino Marian topics, IPv6 and username are the same person because they share edits to List of canonically crowned images. Elizium23 (talk) 22:25, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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--Bbb23 (talk) 21:56, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No evidence provided in response to my request. Bbb23 (talk) 13:53, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

11 December 2014

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Unsourced additions to articles on the Philippines, Marian devotions of Catholicism, and the intersection of the two. LoveforMary example, current sockpuppet example. Likes to add images with dubious copyright status, lately they are being uploaded by another sockpuppet to Commons and claimed as "Own work". Examples:, added by LoveforMary; and added by current IPv6; , added by Knatino. Additional evidence for current sockpuppet is presented at Sockpuppet investigations/Lloydbaltazar/Archive. Elizium23 (talk) 04:07, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Taken singly, each of these three sets of edits is suspicious, but no more. Taken jointly, I think they provide moral certainty that it is the same editor who has already been indefinitely banned.  Esoglou (talk) 07:48, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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Two cases against TreasureIslandMediaBoss have been closed with no action, the last by me (the first by another clerk) in November, because of lack of evidence. I still find the evidence thin against TIMB and against Knatino, a "new" one, even though they have edited since July 2013. I'm willing to seek another clerk's opinion before closing this, though, so am pinging --Bbb23 (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. I don't find the evidence to be strong enough to take any action upon the users at this time. Mike V  •  Talk  19:35, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

29 November 2015

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User:Lloydbaltazar has an extensive history of sockpuppet abuse and the first IP address, 166.171.123.2, traces back to the same location as IP addresses blocked in previous reports, such as and. The second sock listed, 2602:306:8b58:b240:6453:1eaa:1d32:ca32, reverts to the same version as the third sock listed, 2602:306:8B58:B240:991B:12E7:AEDA:AFAD, who includes all of the edits of the first IP (see diff). In addition, User:LimosaCorel, another blocked sockpuppet of User:Lloydbaltazar, previously edited (see diff) this page before being blocked. Thanks! AnupamTalk 16:17, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * No activity from those IPs in the last three days, so I'm closing this.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

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Suspected sock restored vandalism by suspected master and added to it.

original vandalism

restored vandalism edit by suspected sock

added vandalism Ad Orientem (talk) 16:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked the account for vandalism. The IP hasn't been active in the past few days, so I don't think a block is needed. Mike V • Talk 02:50, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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Uploaded the same copyright issue image but in different filename, TreasureIslandMediaBoss diff, SeoulKing diff and IP 104.172.188.15 diff at Nichiren's article, ping to Commons admin  have the intervening investigations. S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk) 23:27, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * TreasureIslandMediaBoss created the account SeoulKing to unload the same image in different filename; NichirenPortrait.jpg, Dai Nichiren Taisekiji Sohonzan.png, and inserted the same image in different filename at Nichiren's article, which was previously has request for deletion due to copyright issue on Commons. As for IP 104.172.188.15 was his log out editing activities, I have no any comment on the IP. <b style="color:red">S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * JamesBWatson, thank you for taking a closer look into this case. Yes, the edits of this sock-farm are disruptive, they add large amounts of OR and unsourced content to articles related to Nichiren, catholic Saints/statues etc. and beauty pageant related articles. They also evaded an indefinite block of Tokuburai.
 * Tokuburai was indefinitely blocked for vandalism by MikeV in this SPI. When MikeV reverted one of Tokuburais last edits, he was quickly reverted by 104.172.176.238 . This resulted in a block of 104.172.176.238 for block evasion.
 * Tokuburai´s SPI shows the involvement of the 2605:E000:218A:2D00:* IP range which is used together with the 104.172.* range for disruptive editing (systematic addition of OR and unsourced content) in articles related to Nichiren (example 1 example 2), beauty pageants and catholic saints/statues/churches (example:  and commentary by Drmies ). The IP range 2605:E000:2198:DF00:* shows some of his recent activities  which include this addition of OR today.  JimRenge (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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The more I see about this case the more complicated it gets. Thank you, for the information you have given. Almost all the edits from the range 2605:E000:2198:DF00:0:0:0:0/64 have clearly been from this person, and it seems very likely that the other few are too, just not so obviously, so I have blocked that range for three months. I have also looked further at various sockpuppet investigations. It seems certain that the sockpuppeteer in this case is the same one as in Sockpuppet investigations/Tokuburai/Archive and Sockpuppet investigations/LimosaCorel, and far more likely than not that it's also the same person at Sockpuppet investigations/Lloydbaltazar. The degree of similarity in both choice of editing topics and type of editing on those topics seems too great to believe that they are not all the same person, and when we add to that the fact that every one of those cases has included IP addresses allocated to the same ISP and geolocating to the same city, it becomes pretty certain. I therefore wonder whether a clerk might consider whether it's worth merging some or all of these SPIs. (If all these are indeed one sockmaster, then it is a very much a long term abuse case, with the problem going back at least as far as July 2007.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * - TreasureIslandMediaBoss is . Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:00, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
 * you seem to be saying that evidence on Commons suggests that these are all the same person. Even if they are, can you provide any evidence that the combination of two accounts and IP editing has been used abusively on English Wikipedia? If not then there is nothing to do here. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:24, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The accounts and IP address have clearly all been used by one person, but I was about to decline this report as no evidence has been given that they have been used abusively on Wikipedia. (What may or may not have happened at commons is not our concern.) However, I decided to have a look at the editing history, and found that SeoulKing and the listed IP address have been jointly used for edit-warring. Since TreasureIslandMediaBoss had previously been blocked for doing precisely the same thing with a different but related IP address, I have blocked SeoulKing indefinitely and the IP address temporarily. I shall also block TreasureIslandMediaBoss indefinitely. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:25, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * For the record, it seems likely that this person may also have abused other accounts, as can be seen at Sockpuppet investigations/Lloydbaltazar/Archive. No one report there had sufficiently convincing evidence to justify any action, but the combination of evidence of links several times is strongly suggestive. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:12, 22 June 2018 (UTC)


 * thanks for the analysis, . I have found in addition:
 * is already tagged as a sock of Lloydbaltazar and should have been merged ages ago.
 * I'm finding inconsistencies in the geolocation. I have batches which among themselves consistently locate to one of three cities, but those cities are not close together. However, this geographic inconsistency seems to have been analyzed already in years past in the Lloydbaltazar case, and it was justifiably concluded then that this was evidence of a user who travels or has responsibilities in different places, rather than several individuals.
 * I agree that the topic focus and technical overlaps between all of the cases suggest one user is responsible for all four, and I am in the process of merging to Sockpuppet investigations/Lloydbaltazar. I only see accounts going back to 2011; if there is an older case please let me know.
 * -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:14, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. Case is closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

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SPA accounts and IPs editing in beauty pageants, sometimes mobile edits, and in some instances edit warring as well as adding unreferenced content. Strong editor interaction with TreasureIslandMediaBoss. I haven't followed Lloydbaltazar's case, but from what I've read this edit pattern is the closest, unless there's another investigation I'm unaware of. There are also many more IPs involved, so I'm only adding the ones that have edited lately. Jamez42 (talk) 02:46, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Because of the number of accounts mentioned, I really feel the need to apologize beforehand to any involved new user that has made good faith edits during these months that is unrelated to Lloydbaltazar. There were other users that I considered adding but decided not to because of their edit history or interaction. --Jamez42 (talk) 03:02, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * Note that TreasureIslandMediaBoss also joined with Catflap08 ‎using 2.247.240.0/20 this IP range from Germany to engage an disruptive editing at Nichiren's article in the past ago, see also Sockpuppet investigations/Catflap08/Archive. <b style="color:red">S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk)13:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The sock master is active on beauty pageant related articles (examples: confirmed sock TreasureIslandMediaBoss created articles like Maria Lynn Ehren and Mikimoto Crown ). Unfortunately many edits on beauty pageant related articles are dubious and many editors appear to be SPA´s who may be involved in POV pushing or disruptive editing. The majority of the IP´s in this report geolocate to countries like Vietnam or England. 104.172.188.15 was blocked for 2 weeks in the recent SPI report.
 * 2600:387:8:7:0:0:0:86 is probably a sock  of Lloydbaltazar. Sometimes the sock master uses the 2600:387:8:* IP range. Example: Confirmed sock SeoulKing uploaded an image at Commons, 07:47, 25 June 2018‎, . This image was inserted half an hour later in a Nichiren related article by 2600:387:8:9::8f . The edits of 2600:387:8:11:0:0:0:71  are also similar to those of the sock master.
 * I am familiar with the Catflap case and I do not assume that he is a sock of Lloydbaltazar. Catflaps last edits were focused on Nichiren related talk pages (Lloydbaltazar socks rarely use talk pages) and the identified IP´s of Lloydbaltazar can not be geolocated to Germany. JimRenge (talk) 10:32, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am pretty sure that Catflap08 is a different person as TreasureIslandMediaBoss or Lloydbaltazar. Only the issue was he shouldn't join with TreasureIslandMediaBoss to campaign for restoring those OR unsourced and NPOV dispute materials of this disruptive editing at Nichiren's article in previously ago while he was the topic ban and local ban user on English Wikipedia, Catflap08 also did the censorship troll comment on at here and me at here in the past ago. Indicated about the IP range 2600:387:8::/48 editing activities, yes I am pretty sure that the IP range was used by Lloydbaltazar in previously ago, such as like this edit summary. <b style="color:red">S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk) 00:13, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed with both of the above (thanks for the ping). If Catflap08 were capable of hiding his location behind proxy IPs and other such magic, he probably wouldn't be actively socking via IPs that are easily identifiable with him. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:23, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no CU evidence on Catflap08, to the best of my knowledge, since he has never socked with a named account. The problem is that he apparently thinks it is okay if he edits while logged out in order to evade his ban, but "true socking" is apparently beyond the pale for him. There also seems to be consensus that Catflap08 is unrelated to the above (I was gonna point out that I don't recall Catflap ever making edits related to beauty pagents). Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 20:34, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, does this mean unrelated from Lloydbaltazar and from each other? --Jamez42 (talk) 06:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - the IPs are stale and geolocate all over the world and none match the previously reported IPs in this case. I'm not sure I understand the supposed behavioural overlap: Lloydbaltazar's area of interest appears to be South Asian Catholicism, Catflap08 seems interested in Nichiren Buddhism (as does Tokuburai), and the accounts related to TreasureIslandMediaBoss are the ones with an interest in beauty pageants, with minor overlaps between the three groups that may be incidental. It's possible we've mis-identified some of these accounts. what do you think? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:34, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * On second thought, for the named accounts only, and please also compare with any available information from Sockpuppet investigations/Catflap08. Going back far enough in any of the blocked accounts shows that they repeatedly return to the same odd set of niche topics, as though someone is trying to employ multiple single-purpose accounts to obfuscate detection but occasionally forgetting which one they're logged in as. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:40, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * yeah, you appear to be right. Catflap is pretty focused on Nichiren, but so are some other accounts identified with Lloydbaltazar who have focused on Nichiren with occasional overlaps into beauty pageants, while others focus more on pageants and just cross over into Nichiren occasionally, but either way those two things are an odd combination of interests. It might amount to nothing but I'm suspicious. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:26, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I also don't think any of the IPs listed here are Catflap. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:27, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * All named accounts are technically ❌. L Faraone  03:52, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Here is an interaction matrix between TreasureIslandMediaBoss and all of the accounts named here. As you can see, the intersections are only in pageant-related articles. As it relates to this case, it appears to be coincidental. This is probably undisclosed paid editing given the nature of the topics, but as far as sockpuppetry is concerned there is no finding. Closing with no action. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:52, 10 July 2018 (UTC)