Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lmagoutas/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
User:Lmagoutas was created in January 2016, but has only made 167 edits since then. User:Nassis13 was created just two months ago, in August 2023, and has made 19 edits; aside of three, the rest are all in the article Arvanites. User:Nassis13 appeared in the talk page of the aforementioned article on 10 August 2023, and over the next couple of days commented seven times; there was an obvious lack of consensus for the changes they were proposing, with five editors disagreeing (here is the discussion). Now, what is suspicious is that User:Lmagoutas appeared in the same article following an approximate one-year break from editing, and through edit warring zealously tried to enforce changes that were proposed by User:Nassis13 just a couple of days earlier (diff1, diff2, diff3, diff4, diff5, diff6, diff7); this led to them receiving a 72-hour block, for violating the three-revert rule.

Something else i noticed, is that both users made their edits via mobile device. Furthermore, both User:Nassis13 (diff) and User:Lmagoutas (diff1, diff2) made a couple of edits while they were logged out of their accounts. Having looked at their IPs, i saw that they share the same ISP, which is Vodafone Greece. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:19, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit: Following the CU's confirmation that the two accounts geolocate to the same city (which invalidates my previous conjecture of two different locations), in combination with the behavioural evidence that has already been presented, i am now certain that we are dealing with the same individual. I should emphasize, again, that User:Lmagoutas made their appearance in Arvanites following a 322-day period of inactivity, and engaged in edit-warring in favor of User:Nassis13's proposed changes from a couple of days earlier. User:Lmagoutas only appeared after User:Nassis13's proposed changes (conveyed in seven comments and about 14,000 bytes of text) were objected by numerous editors. Furthermore, the fact that the former made seven attempts to enforce them (eventually leading to a 72-hour block) suggests that they were extremely frustrated with the outcome of the discussion; something that would be expected of User:Nassis13, instead. Having looked at User:Lmagoutas' 167 contributions, i noticed that in the past they expressed similar concerns to those of User:Nassis13, about the identity/background of historical/linguistic minorities in Greece (such as the Arvanites and others), but they never exceeded one revert: Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:58, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Albanian diaspora: diff (January 2021)
 * Minorities in Greece: diff1 and diff2 (September 2021)
 * Souliotes: diff (September 2021); diff1 and diff2 (August 2023)
 * Origin of the Albanians: diff (January 2022)

Edit: In addition to what has already been presented, i should also add that User:Lmagoutas had never edited Arvanites prior to 14 August 2023, which is when they broke the aforementioned 322-day period of inactivity, and engaged in an edit war. Demetrios1993 (talk) 01:20, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * . MarioGom (talk) 06:46, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It's, in the sense that the two accounts geolocate to the same city, but it's a big city; they do not overlap on any IP ranges however, so if it is one person using two accounts then they are being careful about it.   Girth Summit  (blether)  13:17, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
 * suspected. Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 06:55, 2 December 2023 (UTC)