Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lock580/Archive

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Edits by new user, User:FrenchToast1234, are identical to HamzaKhaliq12345 (the main account). Besides the obviously "1234" name suffix, as well as similarity with previous sock User:Jamdoughnutandtea, their edits mainly consist of deliberately changing boxing and MMA results and stats to read incorrectly. Boxing: Diff 1, Diff 2. Also inserting likely false (certainly unsourced) stats at MMA articles: Diff 3, Diff 4. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:11, 10 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Diffs first from User:FrenchToast1234, showing a similar edit pattern to User:HamzaKhaliq12345 (and known socks), namely changing result types at boxing articles:


 * – Changed to completely false results.
 * – Likewise. Utterly false.
 * – Created a fight record from scratch, with a glaring (possibly deliberate) error in the results.


 * ... Compared to diffs from User:HamzaKhaliq12345 (and known socks), at boxing articles again:


 * – Completely false results.
 * – Likewise.
 * – Again.
 * – Yet again ("Jamdoughnutandtea" vs "FrenchToast"... hmm)
 * – Result type changed falsely (User:Gorge1234).
 * – Again created a fight record from scratch, with identically glaring errors.


 * It's not the strongest case, but those edits smell way too similar to me. And whenever I've seen such edits, it's always been by the same individual. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:02, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


 * For clarity on the master sock page, previous (stale) vandal accounts which I suspect are User:HamzaKhaliq12345, but aren't on the list of confirmed socks:
 * User:Gorge1234
 * User:Lock580
 * Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:47, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * Requesting CU to try to attempt to confirm besides behavioral activity Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 20:12, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * , I was just trying to help the process along (as checkuser appeared to be intended to be requested but wasn't I don't have any interaction with the accused) Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 01:26, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Huh, seems like they hanged themselves. Unless they were pinged (which I can't see and I believe checkuser doesn't ping), how would they have known, as evident by Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/HamzaKhaliq12345, there was a report against them? Dat GuyTalkContribs 16:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
The master is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)


 * can either of you provide diffs comparing this account's edits to edits of previously confirmed socks? All of the diffs here are of FrenchToast1234's edits. If it helps, see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of HamzaKhaliq12345. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 04:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * appreciate the help, it's just that none of the accounts linked to this case have edited recently enough for CheckUser to be possible. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC)


 * you blocked this sockmaster earlier this year as a CU-block but I can't find a previous case or any discussion that led to that block. Is there anything you can direct me to? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * - okay, yes, please block this account. I've had trouble with this one because although there are a number of confirmed socks, there is no archive and so I can't look up the history. I'm confused by 's "it's always been by the same individual" comment if there has been no prior investigation. I also can't tell that the edits are "completely false" and such, but if so, they are the sort of petty stats vandalism we see from IPs all the time and can hardly be considered unique to this user, nor are they really useful as evidence in any case that I've seen. But we also have a username pattern similarity, and that also connects the two accounts added below the evidence. This case will need to be moved for archiving, but let's handle blocks first. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the account but mentioned casemoving for archival so feel free to proceed as you see fit. Let me know if any admin help is needed. ☺ ·   Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  16:23, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Moved to name of oldest account and closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:48, 15 November 2016 (UTC)