Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lontech/Archive

Report date April 1 2010, 09:16 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets
 * (WP:DUCK)
 * (may not be the same editor)


 * Evidence submitted by Tadijataking

Lontech


 * these are not sources, these are insults.

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 * i'll report you if you revert insults

24.61.23.108


 * rv pov

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 * if you're not familiar with the subject don't edit it

92.53.45.126


 * this is offensive and pov


 * these are primary sources, not secondary so they can't be used

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 * rv, admin warned you IP aware of some possible admin warning, in it's second edit.

User:Lontech was until recently Kosovo topic banned. Checkuser may be needed per second IP, just to be sure that they are, or aren't same user. Tadijataking 09:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

This is an effort by a desperate editor ( after failed attempt to delete an article created by me the "Constitutional Court of Kosovo http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constitutional_Court_of_Kosovo&oldid=353172520") and without any credibility This editor has abused more than a account. evidence check this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tadija&oldid=317084943 were admits that he were using a sock I said i would report him therefore he wishes to protect himself by accusing me.-- LONTECH    Talk  15:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)''
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

Regarding IPs (ISP) 24.61.23.108 US UNITED STATES MASSACHUSETTS BOSTON COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS HOLDINGS INC (ISP) 92.53.45.126 MK MACEDONIA, THE FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF ARACINOVO SKOPJE CABLETEL DOOEL MACEDONIA TRIPLE PLAY CLIENTS that are different from my Ip, Location

I did not use the socks during the 4 months Ban. why use now ?-- LONTECH    Talk  23:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Company Overview Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc. operates cable television networks, broadband cable networks, and provides telephone services. The company was incorporated in 2001 as AT&T Broadband Corp. and is headquartered in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc. operates as a subsidiary of Comcast Corporation.

http://www.comcast.com/default.cspx 1500 Market Street Philadelphia, PA 19102-2148 United States

Founded in 2001 -- LONTECH    Talk  16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Cabletel Address 68 Debartsa Str. Skopje Macedonia E-mail: info@cabletel.com.mk Tel +389 2 24 60 820 +389 2 20 39 922 +389 2 30 78 689 +389 2 27 72 020 URL http://cabletel.com.mk


 * Comments by other users


 * I would say that the connection between Lontech and the IPs are blatantly obvious. I find the argument Lontech makes in his defense classic Tu quoque as well. I don't see how the fact that the nominator being blocked for sockpuppetry himself, which he admitted and apologized for in his unblock request and which was noted favorably by the reviewing administrator, in September 2009, applies to his own possible sockpuppetry in April 2010. I also don't see evidence of interaction between the nominator and accused in the link provided. It just seems an attempt to discredit the other party. As I sad, tu quoque. In my opinion, the fact that the IPs keep making the exact same revert for the exact same reasons as Lontech is pretty conclusive evidence. --Pstanton (talk) 21:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * In response to a rather angry message from Lontech on my talk page, it would seem that Lontech is either using a proxy or is only using one of the IP addresses as a sock account. Despite the fact that the locations of the IP addresses do not match, the behavioral evidence stands. --Pstanton (talk) 03:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Tadija who opened this case has accused me too of many things like being a spambot or that my account has been compromised etc. The case itself is a bit strange, because although they seem to support Lontech in that article, all the other articles they have edited don't match Lontech's interests. My guess is that they have no relation to Lontech but they jumped in the article because they saw someone editing parts they were interested in. An ip check is necessary in order to be sure what is going on.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 10:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ZjarriRrethues, I agree that a Checkuser is necessary, and while I can see and understand that Tadija himself does not have a perfect or even good record by any means, the behavioral evidence he shows through the edit histories linked is either a huge coincidence or IP sock-puppetry. I suppose it could be possible that they are unrelated to Lontech, but that would be a pretty enormous coincidence in my opinion. --Pstanton (talk) 01:01, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

And another. I am not impressed with Lontech's belligerence, assuming bad faith, and avoiding addressing the behavioral evidence. --Pstanton (talk) 00:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree on many of the issues you referred to but we have to be sure, because we wouldn't want to get him blocked if he actually isn't related to the IPs.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 08:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Note that both the IPs were already implicated in Sockpuppet investigations/Sarandioti/Archive, where socking was determined to have been "unlikely". Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

No action taken at this time. CU would not check this anyways per privacy policy reasons. Also, no admin has willing to act on this for over 3 weeks now, and I doubt anyone will. –MuZemike 18:12, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Conclusions