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Keroro123456‎ is a SPA account, possible COI, on editing CRRC related topic. But in the scope of SPI, Keroro123456‎ keep on cut and paste move and did it again after first warning, and blanking his topic page after second warning. Lotus L-12, a stale account in wikipedia, did c&p move as his first edit in 2017 in Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Works. By inspecting global contribution, both users edited ja:日経スペシャル 未来世紀ジパング〜沸騰現場の経済学〜 (with one more ja-only possible socks, which same pattern on leaving only his username in talk page). So, may be just need checkuser to be the final nail on the coffin. Matthew_hk  t  c  08:11, 27 May 2017 (UTC)


 * weak evidence between Tsuyoshi000926 and Keroro123456 was the edit of Tsuyoshi000926 on List of automobile manufacturers of China in 2017. Tsuyoshi000926, a stale account since 2009, suddenly active and have the same edit interest with Keroro123456 (edit). Matthew_hk   t  c  08:38, 27 May 2017 (UTC)


 * add one more stale account Kerokero777. Since Lotus L-12, Tsuyoshi000926 and Kerokero777 were stale accounts for a long time (first two re-active in 2017), and Keroro123456 is a new account in May 2017. I believe the real sockmaster was still not known. Matthew_hk   t  c  07:02, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * the (weak) evidence of Kerokero777 to Keroro123456 (and Lotus L-12) were both edited Porsche 911 GT1 (compare self reverted by Lotus L-12 and this by Kerokero777), and was leaving only their username (as content) on userpage and talk page (at the time of creation), as well as the similarity of username (Keroro was an anime character). Matthew_hk   t  c  08:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * dig out one more stale Tsuyoshi787b. Seem it is a long term abuse that the cut and paste move/split in List of shipping companies to List of freight ship companies and List of passenger ship companies (and the "solving" of parallel article List of ship companies) were never discovered until today, which was alternate use of accounts/socks Lotus L-12 and Tsuyoshi787b (with Tsuyoshi000926 the oldest account, may be the original sockmaster account) Matthew_hk   t  c  07:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * One more evidence on Polsteam to prove Tsuyoshi787b and Lotus L-12 were socks of Tsuyoshi000926 (or socks of an undiscovered sockmaster account, or account Lotus L-12 shortly became master from sock in 2007/2009) to perform cut and paste move and contribute. Matthew_hk   t  c  08:16, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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Not against the rules obviously but an interestingly timed talk page blanking Drewmutt ( ^ᴥ^ ) talk  20:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)


 * just concern on using alternative account on evading of warning to use another account (Lotus L-12) to perform cut and paste move for the third time (on 27 May 2017, the "first" c&p of Keroro123456 were List of tram builders and List of locomotive manufacturers). Since then he back to use the current main account Keroro123456 to edit. (minor reword on Matthew_hk   t  c  08:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC))
 * More specifically, this user had an undiscovered behavior (until today) on creating SPA to perform un-discussed split of article and cut and paste move, namely user Tsuyoshi787b (except his first three edits on creating List of mountaineering equipment brands) After Tsuyoshi787b did the "dirty" job on Polsteam and List of ship companies (both in October 2011‎), then user:Lotus L-12 back to edit the articles. Matthew_hk   t  c  10:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * - I think there's a clear connection between the mentioned sockpuppets and the sockmaster but the evidence is mostly intersecting. Evidence on KK777 is a bit scarce but I think the small intersection with the other similarly named account warrants a search too, but the bottom two accounts are stale. Nevertheless, I speculate a distinct connection, which would warrant a block on behavioural grounds, even if it's weak.  QEDK ( 愛 ) 17:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ + . Blocked and tagged.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:28, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * All good to go. I think it's pretty DUCK for the rest but they're stale, we can just wait till edit.   QEDK  ( 愛 ) 19:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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trigger by same cut and past move on previous sock interests (: CRRC Datong and CRRC Times Electric, the subsidiaries of CRRC . Matthew_hk   t  c  12:36, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * and CRRC Ziyang, CRRC Qishuyan and CRRC Tangshan. Matthew_hk   t  c  12:39, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2017 (UTC)