Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lung salad/Archive

08 April 2012

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This account is making similar edits with the same sources as the blocked user, similar pages. User:Lung salad was banned and then blocked after making personal attacks against me. I expected him to be back as a puppet. Seems to be back now. History2007 (talk) 22:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

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Examples: Seems a clear-cut case of WP:DUCK to me. Huon (talk) 23:31, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Annals (Tacitus): Lung salad:, replicated by Twentyfour seven100:.
 * Tacitus on Christ: Lung salad:, , , and  replicated by Twentyfour seven100:
 * Also Tacitus on Christ: Lung salad: replicated by Twentyfour seven100:

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 * I often say that checkuser only catches the stupid ones. Make of that what you will, Twentyfour seven100 is ✅ as Lung Salad. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * also ✅ as Lung salad. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:59, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Marking for close. TN X Man  15:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

14 April 2012

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Attacks on several articles connected with Christianity, all shouting in block caps that Wikipedia is run by Roman Catholics. While we have several blocked editors of an anti-religious persuasion, Lung salad is the only one I can think of who constantly yelled about Roman Catholic bias in articles about Jesus Christ. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:59, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * ✅ - Already blocked. Tiptoety  talk 17:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

17 April 2012

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First three edits are all reverts to months-old versions by User:Lung salad or his previous sock: Tacitus on Christ, Annals (Tacitus) and Josephus on Jesus. By now he's edit-warring to keep his preferred versions in place. Huon (talk) 11:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, obviously a disruption-only account and apparently the same pattern as the earlier confirmed socks. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:44, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅, already blocked, so I'll mark for close. TN X Man  13:28, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

25 April 2012

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WP:DUCK already blocked. Doing paperwork. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  19:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * Reblocked to carry the case name. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  19:50, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

04 May 2012

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Similar/identical edits on Josephus on Jesus, Tacitus on Christ (plus similarity of username) to known Lung salad socks User:No censorship and User:Reject censorship. Quack. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 12:23, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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 * Yes, probably a puppet of "Reject censorship" and also "No censorship" etc. Those 3 pages really need to be semi-protected. This user will just keep getting new accounts and waste everyone's time. This will only stop after semi-protection. History2007 (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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✅ match to. TN X Man 14:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

26 May 2012

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Blanking Josephus on Jesus article. Left uncivil message for various editors involved in this article. Also vandalized talk pages. Calls existing articles 'unproductive biased fundamentalist' edits. Elizium23 (talk) 11:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, he is back as user:Lie Detector tester. I think we need an action replay here again. History2007 (talk) 10:32, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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I asked for page protection here. This fellow just does not want to give up and is eating up time that could be used to improve the encyclopedia, not ping-pong him for ever. Could one of the admins here please respond to that request? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Both ✅ as. . TN X Man  15:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Accounts already blocked and tags updated per CU results. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

28 September 2012

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Nittoditto is an WP:SPA carrying out Lung Salad's old "Jesus didn't historically exist because I don't accept other scholar's findings" rants. Continues to insist that the articles relating to Jesus are based on "faith-based" sources, ignoring the mostly secular sources cited, just as Lung Salad did. Bigotry directed at History2007, as Lung Salad also did, is common between the two accounts. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:36, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As for Excogitator69, this is in line with other disruptive edits by confirmed Lung socks. Best to check for other sleepers.  Ian.thomson (talk) 16:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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Are we saying that Nittoditto and Lung salad are unrelated? or that Nittoditto and Excogitator are? Or is it that Lung salad is stale? History2007 (talk) 05:38, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ellen of the Roads. I did not want to spend the long effort to build diffs, but let me note here for future use that "Spencer Kennard 1948" is a favorite reference used by all puppets, as are references to Marcion. Also the rejection of modern scholarly sources in favor of "facts and evidence" is a trademark. There are a few more subtle clues that identify them early on, but it is best that I do not type them here, where everyone can read. History2007 (talk) 16:38, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * The two accounts are ❌, everything else is . -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  01:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)


 * To answer History2000, the two accounts are editing from different continents, and the checkuser tool only goes back a few months. I think Nittoditto is Lung Salad and have blocked accordingly, and I've indeff'd the other account as existing only to make a nuisance of itself. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

01 October 2012

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Same revert edit as User:Nittoditto, a puppet of Lung salad.

And


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User:Helpsortabout is a known puppet of Lung salad. He could at least get a new insult. But these edits should pin down some IP info so CU will no longer be stale now. History2007 (talk) 21:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Also IP 78.129.187.119 is most likely Lung salad, given the edits. History2007 (talk) 21:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)




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Quack quack (Hibnip is a proven sock of Lung salad, in case anyone unfamiliar with this individual is handling this). Ian.thomson (talk) 23:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Something is strange here. I asked here anyway, but I am pretty sure Lung salad in in the midlands, or just north of it. My reasons are three fold:


 * I think 78.129.187.119 is doing exactly the same edits, and is in the midlands.


 * Long ago, Lung salad had edited pages for newscasters in the UK. He has an interest there, and watches English TV. He is probably not in the US or Canada.


 * He said that in the 1970s he had corresponded with F. F. Bruce - who was a professor in Manchester. Midlands area again.

78.129.187.119 and 109.202.98.45 seem to be doing similar edits but from different countries. However, user:Bretonbanquet said it is possible (but not immediate) to do via this. So may be... And given that he is really persistent... it may just be the case. History2007 (talk) 00:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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User:Hibnip ✅ as a sock of Nittoditto (no point keeping this hanging about). Helpsortabout is - the tool really doesn't keep information for that long. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:13, 1 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. He could get a Nobel Prize in persistence, if they gave those out... History2007 (talk) 21:16, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

If this is Lung Salad he's suddenly got techie - editing thru RapidSwitch then thru this Dutch proxy..... Given that the last run round produced somebody exactly like him but in Canada, I'm wondering if they've got a mailing list going. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Closing.