Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lute88/Archive

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See the identical additions made here and here, by Babanaboat2882 and Lute88 respectively. Exemplo347 (talk) 00:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * Following up with your hold placed May 10. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 20:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's been bothering me that I haven't taken it off hold. These accounts have a tortured history. I tried to get to the bottom of it but was stymied. I thought maybe I'd push it even further, but it sure doesn't look like I'll do it in a timely way. If you want the few details I have, you can e-mail me. Otherwise, do whatever you think best.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:31, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * I have unsuccessfully tried to figure out the full import of Requests for checkuser/Case/Lute88. The first two accounts are technically the same person with the same interests, but for some reason were never blocked for socking at the relevant time frame (Galassi was blocked for socking in 2006 and then unblocked with the notation "apparently not a sock"). Based on what the "checkuser" page says, I suspect the two accounts belong to relatives who live together, although there are templates that should be used to declare the use of shared IPs but are not present on either userpage. Even if they are confirmed relatives, it's still problematic that they edit the same articles. There's no explanation for, although that account has made only a few edits. For the moment, I'm going to ask and  to explain what's going on. If no explanation is forthcoming in a reasonable length of time, I'll block, which will potentially force an explanation. I'm leaving the case on hold while this is being sorted.
 * Babanaboat2882 is ❌.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No need for threats. The three accounts above do belong to our family, the 3rd of which is for the freshman progeny. This already came up ca 12 years ago, and was accepted then. We have no idea who Bananaboat is.--Lute88 (talk) 01:08, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There are templates each related editor should be using that declares that the three of you use shared IPs. There are also problems regardless because at least you and Galassi edit the same pages.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Babanaboat2882 is ❌.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No need for threats. The three accounts above do belong to our family, the 3rd of which is for the freshman progeny. This already came up ca 12 years ago, and was accepted then. We have no idea who Bananaboat is.--Lute88 (talk) 01:08, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There are templates each related editor should be using that declares that the three of you use shared IPs. There are also problems regardless because at least you and Galassi edit the same pages.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:11, 9 June 2017 (UTC)


 * If this were my call, I'd block both Lute88 and Galassi. However, I have tried repeatedly to get input from my colleagues on what to do here, and I've had zero success. I don't feel comfortable taking action unilaterally given the unusual history. Reluctantly closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Some of these accounts are very old (Lute89, Howellsa88, Erabbit, Torban). Some of these accounts have been used recently for POV-pushing, trolling and abuse (Thegoodmanisamazing, Bulese, Themanhascome). Older sockpuppets are easy to establish, but then probably sokmaster got the experience and I doubt that his ties with fresh single-purpose accounts will be easy to confirm. Perhaps old accounts can help with this. "" account is used in parallel with Lute88. They claim to be relatives, but they don't use templates to declare that they have shared IPs and I'm not sure whether to trust this statement. User Galassi was put "under an indefinite revert limitation back in 2011 under Eastern Europe DS". Lute88, as I see, shows the similar style:.

Well, one by one:


 * Thegoodmanisamazing, Bulese, Themanhascome, UkrainianSavior are "fresh accounts". Along with mentioned IP they were used for edit warring and rough personal attacks and were blocked. I do not know exactly who is whose "sock" of them. Some diffs for Lute88 acts together with them:

71.121.248.91 & Bulese Lute88: Socks: Lute88: Socks:

Themanhascome Lute88: Socks:

2601:143:4200:700:0:0:0:0/64 Lute88: Socks:


 * Lute89, Erabbit and Williamtheturtle massively added dubious links into the one article. Suspects had some interest in it too: Lute88: Galassi:  (and Babanaboat2882  from the previous case(SPI-2017)

01:27, 20 August 2006 Will Beback blocked Galassi with an expiration time of indefinite (sock of user:Primetime) 12:52, 20 August 2006 User account Torban was created
 * Torban - It was created immediately after Galassi was blocked as a suspected sock of Primetime:


 * Torbanist is a known sock (or shared IP-user) of Galassi/Lute88 (SPI-2017). But given the creation of an account "Torban" in 2006, I doubt the explanation that Galassi gave about this situation in 2017.


 * Bandurist had a very similar style of POV-pushing and similar interest ("bandura" is a sort of lute)

Galassi had previously been suspected of Primetime and Jacob Peters' sockpappet. "Primetime" suspicion was lifted thanks to a letter from Primetime itself ("Primetime <...> wrote a message <...> disavowing any connection with <...> Galassi."). I doubt that this is a sufficient argument. Galassi also restored the edits of the IP-account of banned user Jacob peters:. I doubt that this is one person, but there is some connection between them.

Previous cases: Requests for checkuser/Case/Lute88 2008 Sockpuppet investigations/Lute88/Archive 2017 Nicoljaus (talk) 11:38, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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There is nothing here but old history. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:46, 30 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Strange rationale. I have just been blocked due to the fact that I canceled edits of one of the suspected sockpuppet. Perhaps I am mistaken in my suspicions, but this is not an "old history".--Nicoljaus (talk) 14:52, 30 April 2019 (UTC)