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Article Talos Holdings LLC and Draft:Talos Holdings LLC was created (Hellometa), edited (Likeme123) and later deleted as being promotional article, and immediately recreated with user (MNB9911) declaring a conflict of interest. This is amongst a raft of other spam-like articles with dubious references being identified. (That is being managed and explored separately). Let us deal with this first. Will be pre-CU time frame though needs to be noted.

It will interesting to see if we can identify CU data to see if we have a distributed network of editors, which I think that we may have, or we have a hub of activity within a range. Thanks. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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I am an admin, and is part of an ongoing investigation. I suspect we are going to have a lot of work in front of us cleaning up this garbage. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have put the report on hold until tomorrow. I started working on this on my own without knowing that this report existed. It makes more sense for me to continue as I've already compiled a fair amount of data.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Oddly, I didn't receive any ping about this (or missed it), but found the page when I was stalking Bbb23 to see if they were online :) Thanks for filing the case and please let me know if you need any input from me. --kingboyk (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * billinghurst failed to sign their comment with the ping.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:09, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I filled out the ping in the template at creation time and the template specifically states not to sign. It would seem that a signature needs to directly follow a mention, not to be in the same edit as a signature. [Another lesson learnt about echo.] Thanks for your work here. To note that I think that we have a network of related editors and I think all working for the same organisation, though probably as independent contractors. Also to note that "Blue windy muso" and "Hellometa" edited the Peter Golding article in similar strings of edits. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Group 1 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other:
 * Group 2 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and to Group 1:
 * Group 3 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and ❌ to Groups 1-2:
 * Blocked and tagged the Group 1 accounts. Blocked without tags the Group 2 accounts. Blocked without tags TrollInformant. Behavioral analysis is needed to compare the Group 2 accounts with the Group 1 accounts to decide whether they are likely the same person.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to re-delete Draft:Talos Holdings LLC as spam. Any thoughts? --kingboyk (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a tainted article, though we still need to judge its notability on the evidence. My assessment last time was "spam", so my opinion is delete. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I blocked . looks possibly related. I concur that Group 3 is unrelated – Blue windy muso admitted to being . I don't see a behavioral connection between Groups 1 and 2. Tailares could be related to UA85. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your analysis. Please create a new case from Group 2 with Tailares as the master and tag the accounts. They are ❌ to UA85. Ranag12345 and Alirazaofficail are ✅. I've blocked Alirazaofficail and tagged both.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Tailares filed. . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Group 2 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and to Group 1:
 * Group 3 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and ❌ to Groups 1-2:
 * Blocked and tagged the Group 1 accounts. Blocked without tags the Group 2 accounts. Blocked without tags TrollInformant. Behavioral analysis is needed to compare the Group 2 accounts with the Group 1 accounts to decide whether they are likely the same person.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to re-delete Draft:Talos Holdings LLC as spam. Any thoughts? --kingboyk (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a tainted article, though we still need to judge its notability on the evidence. My assessment last time was "spam", so my opinion is delete. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I blocked . looks possibly related. I concur that Group 3 is unrelated – Blue windy muso admitted to being . I don't see a behavioral connection between Groups 1 and 2. Tailares could be related to UA85. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your analysis. Please create a new case from Group 2 with Tailares as the master and tag the accounts. They are ❌ to UA85. Ranag12345 and Alirazaofficail are ✅. I've blocked Alirazaofficail and tagged both.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Tailares filed. . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Group 2 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and to Group 1:
 * Group 3 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and ❌ to Groups 1-2:
 * Blocked and tagged the Group 1 accounts. Blocked without tags the Group 2 accounts. Blocked without tags TrollInformant. Behavioral analysis is needed to compare the Group 2 accounts with the Group 1 accounts to decide whether they are likely the same person.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to re-delete Draft:Talos Holdings LLC as spam. Any thoughts? --kingboyk (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a tainted article, though we still need to judge its notability on the evidence. My assessment last time was "spam", so my opinion is delete. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I blocked . looks possibly related. I concur that Group 3 is unrelated – Blue windy muso admitted to being . I don't see a behavioral connection between Groups 1 and 2. Tailares could be related to UA85. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your analysis. Please create a new case from Group 2 with Tailares as the master and tag the accounts. They are ❌ to UA85. Ranag12345 and Alirazaofficail are ✅. I've blocked Alirazaofficail and tagged both.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Tailares filed. . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Group 2 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and to Group 1:
 * Group 3 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and ❌ to Groups 1-2:
 * Blocked and tagged the Group 1 accounts. Blocked without tags the Group 2 accounts. Blocked without tags TrollInformant. Behavioral analysis is needed to compare the Group 2 accounts with the Group 1 accounts to decide whether they are likely the same person.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to re-delete Draft:Talos Holdings LLC as spam. Any thoughts? --kingboyk (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a tainted article, though we still need to judge its notability on the evidence. My assessment last time was "spam", so my opinion is delete. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I blocked . looks possibly related. I concur that Group 3 is unrelated – Blue windy muso admitted to being . I don't see a behavioral connection between Groups 1 and 2. Tailares could be related to UA85. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your analysis. Please create a new case from Group 2 with Tailares as the master and tag the accounts. They are ❌ to UA85. Ranag12345 and Alirazaofficail are ✅. I've blocked Alirazaofficail and tagged both.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Tailares filed. . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Group 3 – the following accounts are ✅ to each other and ❌ to Groups 1-2:
 * Blocked and tagged the Group 1 accounts. Blocked without tags the Group 2 accounts. Blocked without tags TrollInformant. Behavioral analysis is needed to compare the Group 2 accounts with the Group 1 accounts to decide whether they are likely the same person.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to re-delete Draft:Talos Holdings LLC as spam. Any thoughts? --kingboyk (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a tainted article, though we still need to judge its notability on the evidence. My assessment last time was "spam", so my opinion is delete. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:17, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I blocked . looks possibly related. I concur that Group 3 is unrelated – Blue windy muso admitted to being . I don't see a behavioral connection between Groups 1 and 2. Tailares could be related to UA85. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your analysis. Please create a new case from Group 2 with Tailares as the master and tag the accounts. They are ❌ to UA85. Ranag12345 and Alirazaofficail are ✅. I've blocked Alirazaofficail and tagged both.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Tailares filed. . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your analysis. Please create a new case from Group 2 with Tailares as the master and tag the accounts. They are ❌ to UA85. Ranag12345 and Alirazaofficail are ✅. I've blocked Alirazaofficail and tagged both.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/Tailares filed. . Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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obvious puppet, showed up 2 weeks ago, welcoming other users, adding inappropriate maintenance templates all over the place and as soon as they got AC moved Draft:Talos Holdings LLC to mainspace (now at Draft:Talos Holdings) Praxidicae (talk) 19:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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'''This case is being reviewed by JJMC89 as part of the clerk training process. Please allow him to process the entire case without interference, and pose any questions or concerns either on his talk page or on this page if more appropriate.'''
 * The behaviorial evidence is compelling. to confirm and check for sleepers —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:25, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * 57 accounts are now blocked. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 10:32, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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I thought perhaps it was just a coincidence that their username was so similar to HinaBB but the garbled english on my talk page combined with their interest in TNBC (see HinaBB's creation) leads me to believe this is yet more sock spam. They're also asking about This draft they've never edited, so I suspect there's a lot more to this upe farm. Praxidicae (talk) 14:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Also note (see diff on my talk page) that they both sign with a stray parenthesis. Requesting CU as I suspect this is yet another paid farm and the last time we went through this, there were 57 accts. Praxidicae (talk) 14:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * It is certainly . . Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note for reviewing adminstrator: The area these accounts are from does not have a large number of available IPs. False positives are more likely to occur. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Blocking mainly about the behaviour. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

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clear meat puppet, restoring past sock spam edits on Calvin Lo Praxidicae (talk) 14:18, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, tagged and closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:04, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

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Adding promotional content and removing COI tags from Calvin Lo, same as previous sock/meat accounts  and. Also likes using Twinkle and tagging articles, similar to other socks. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 17:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:52, 30 May 2020 (UTC)