Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Magiko/Archive

Report date January 11 2010, 16:28 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Shortly after speedy nomination of The tides of time created by puppeteer, User:Polo Piatti removed speedy tag with edit summary "Deleted code according to suggested guidelines". Puppeteer created article Polo Piatti, which was speedied six times and create-protected, and about which User:Polo Piatti has just remarked on his talk page, "I have an album released (entitles 'The Tides Of Time') which has been marked to be speedily deleted on Wikipedia. As far as I have seen the article (posted by 'Magiko') is both truthful and accurate. Someone in the past deleted also my own biographical page as well (page entitled: Polo Piatti) stating I lacked "notability"".
 * Evidence submitted by MuffledThud (talk)

Note also very similar edit history: sock repeatedly adds linkspam ELs for Winkle Club to Hastings Old Town, puppeteer repeatedly re-creates created and maintains Winkle Club. MuffledThud (talk) 16:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Update: User:Polo Piatti has just admitted sockpuppetry on my talk page in this edit: "I NEVER impersonated anyone. I just used a different address (Magiko) just as a pseudonym in order to protect my identity as an artist while on Wikipedia." MuffledThud (talk) 16:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * This appears to be an alternate account but i don't see that it has been used abusively. Winkle Club looks to me like a perfectly valid article, albeit in need of improvement, and I'm not absolutely convinced that the links refereed to as linkspam fit that description either. I don't see a significant problem here, but rather a case for education. DES (talk) 20:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, the primary abuse was of using one account to create The tides of time and another to remove the speedy tag. The Winkle Club stuff is fairly minor. MuffledThud (talk) 21:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but we often get creators doing that, and it had no significant effect, and is usually do more to misunderstanding than to defiance of the rules. I think that is the case here. i am working with User:Magiko to try to get The tides of time to a valid article that demonstrates notability in a proper way. (I have a draft in my userspace at the moment.) I think all that is needed is for him to properly and openly declare the alternate account as such, and link the two accounts. Or else agree to have one account vanish for good. DES (talk) 22:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This sounds like a good solution that is best for all. Airplaneman  talk 22:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Generally no continued concern or need for CU due to the excellent work by DES. NJA (t/ c)  11:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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 * Conclusions