Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Makedonij/Archive

16 June 2011

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Makedonij stopped editing Wikipedia regularly in June 2009, leaving behind a bit of a history of Macedonian POV-pushing (see Arbcom cases here and here). Macedoniarulez showed up just over a month ago, showing rather duckish behavior and continuing to push the Macedonian POV. The user has a very similar userpage to Makedonij, featuring the Macedonian flag at the left and the quote "Wikipedia is not neutral! This is a great propaganda against the Macedonian people and their history! ." at the top. Macedoniarulez also recently fixed an error on Makedonij's userpage, and posted this on Makedonij's talk page. Furthermore, Macedoniarulez recently requested that another user create for xyr a page (Macedonian Genocide) that Makedonij created back in 2008, right before xyr topic ban. Macedoniarulez even requested that the user copy and paste the same exact article from a Deletionpedia page.

Seems rather duckish to me, but I'm not sure enough to go ahead and block without bringing it up, particularly since one of the accounts appears to be inactive. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 07:35, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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The user would appear to have admitted to socketpuppetry here. I have urged them to input here and stop using the current account. G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 15:18, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As per Steve below, I'd suggest a commitment from the user to stick to one account. G  ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 16:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure there's sockpuppetry going on here, the two accounts seem to have different editing styles and Makedonjis account is inactive. I have been helping Macedoniarulez who seems to be a newcomer. I think its important to AGF and not to be too bitey. If the Makedonji account remains inactive and the user declares that they are only using one account then I believe that should be the end of it. I will try to assist and guide them in policy issues of they wish  G  ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 09:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that mentorship would be a great idea, if Macedoniarulez is willing. I agree that if the other account remains inactive, and no other accounts turn up, there won't be a sockpuppetry issue. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 20:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry, I am not admitting Sock-Puppetry because I thought sock puppetry was Vandalism, and I do accept that I have done Vandalism, but not Sock-Puppetry... I had no idea what sock puppetry was until now... I am sorry... I did not commit Sock-Puppetry.Macedoniarulez (talk) 00:53, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you the same person who was formerly editing under the account Makedonij? – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 02:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Makedonij had a block log, and was also placed on revert parole per WP:ARBMAC. Using an alternate account would fall under the "avoiding scrutiny" clause of deceptive sockpuppetry. In such cases, I think it is customary to indef the sock account so that the user returns to their original account. Athenean (talk) 05:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Seems pretty duckish to me, The question here is, what action do we take? I'm not 100% sure if this falls under multiple account abuse (having the primary account making no edits since Oct 2010, so perhaps no action may be required here unless it becomes clear Makedonij resumes editing again?  Steven Zhang  The clock is ticking....  15:28, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I have placed a block on the Makedonij account. Macedoniarulez should be allowed to continue editing, as the socking was quite a while ago. Any restrictions as a result of WP:ARBMAC should continue to be applied with the new account. –MuZemike 21:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)