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His/her username and edits are similar to Manda 1993 which is giving fake information and often nonsense. Tiktomoro (talk) 18:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

More detail: usually, user:Manda 1993 and user:Mandalgs1993 give an incomprehensible edits and edit summaries by typing some random words like this and this, and when his/her edits has been reverted, he/she reverted back to his/her revision, again and again (see both Manda 1993 and Mandalgs1993's contributions). Tiktomoro (talk) 08:10, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * I've requested a global lock for this account at Meta-Wiki ArdiPras95 (talk) 23:26, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: Both accounts on this SPI are already globally locked as of March 21, 2017 (UTC). -ArdiPras95 (talk) 12:03, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  21:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * - More info provided on IRC. Working on this, but I want to talk to another CU before I report results. Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 21:33, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I haven't had a chance to confer with another CU yet like I planned to do, but with both accounts globally locked there's nothing left to do here. Closing.  Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 22:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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Imitate another username ArdiPras95. Ilzhabimantara (talk) 04:41, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

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The case is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The sock is already globally locked. Tagging and closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

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editing the same page (Langsa), as a blocked sock(ArdiPras93 ), username similarity, IP trying to revert and alter block notices on sock's page and trying to vandalize the SPI Tornado chaser (talk) 14:49, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blatant sockpuppet. Blocked. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:52, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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✅ to. Blocked without tags. The account is already indeffed at id.wiki. Please globally lock. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Done by RadiX. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:24, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:28, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * Already globally locked. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

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DiAceh re-created BeritaSatu News Channel, previously created by User:Rachmat10 (who was previously reported at Sockpuppet investigations/Manda 1993/Archive). There is also overlap between their INtv (Indonesia) & INTV Indonesia, and in their shared habit of copying articles untranslated from id:. Quack! Cabayi (talk) 11:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * 5 albert square (talk) 15:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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A bunch of disruptive, unexplained undos, a user page which lists the master's previous obsessions, a username which uses points from the previous userenames and echoes the last sock's comment on my talk page. Quack! Cabayi (talk) 17:35, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * - . Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Blocked. --Neil N  talk to me 18:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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Very focused on BeritaSatu Medan just like the previous sock WikiManda 1993 (I'm not sure if that is supposed to be a sister channel of BeritaSatu, or its successor, or maybe the same thing as BeritaSatu News, which has been created several times by previous socks?) They also communicate in Indonesian (?) - the phrase was also used by WikiManda 1993. No online translator can make sense of either post so I have no idea if it is an insult, an explanation, or what. But it is surely the same person saying it. bonadea contributions talk 16:15, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * Blocked. --Neil N  talk to me 18:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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This IP has been used for a few days, editing the same articles as the previous socks. Has also restored edits previously made by sockpuppets of Manda 1993, here, posted this to the talk page of a blocked sock - cf this. bonadea contributions talk 08:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * IP edits too old. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 19:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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(HMRafly9) astonishingly naive self referencing at - reflecting the earlier -  item at that page - as well as the interfering behaviour at

Because it wasnt directly observed as replication of the above previous iteration, was able to keep editing with exactly the same items as the material from earlier this month, and in January. Quacking louder than any other duck ever observed before.

This user has also reverted User:Sandstein and User:JarrahTree reverts. JarrahTree 14:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * Both accounts have edited page (redirects to O Channel after an afd). The page was also edited by previous locked socks Rachmat10 and Worog.
 * HMRafly9 also made this edit to Manda. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 16:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merged my filing to this one. Adding Rahmat.d96 to the suspected socks and switching to CU request since I've found this account. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 16:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * Moved this from the Archive. Primefac (talk) 13:43, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ and blocked. Please globally lock the two accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:49, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 17:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:36, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

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more or less identical editing as previous socks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HMRafly9 and telltale signature message at Manda - each time https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manda&diff=next&oldid=847310613 - with low level of capacity of english, and showing limited inventiveness between each sock effort...

The behaviour is long term now - over a year of similar exploits:
 * https://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Istimewa%3AKontribusi+pengguna&contribs=user&target=Channel+Manda&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=2017&month=-1
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/BeritaSatu_TV_Medan

and current editing of the recent socks shows little variation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HMRafly9 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/125.161.107.155

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 * HMRaya 5 is definitely Manda 1993 given the edits at suwiki (see https://su.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia/Manda_Langsa/Kopi/(Kompas)&action=history ). Also created a redirect LTA Manda there. The other sock is BeritaSatu TV Sumatera Utara blocked in two wikis already but hasn't edited here yet. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 13:05, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * The IP is stale and the account globally locked. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 01:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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Earlier form - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Manda_1993

Back to the same item, that was the telltale item all those months ago JarrahTree 10:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * tried to file this earlier today but got some things mixed up, and was reverted. I'm restoring their report with what I think they intended. As I understand it the "telltale item" is contribs at Manda, but more below. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:44, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

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 * The original request for CU is - the case is stale. This account is very obviously a sockpuppet though, they're writing messages to the same editors in the same language I don't recognize, and they're using their sandbox to game ECP. . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:44, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The account is ✅. The archive may be stale, but the case is not. I've changed the template on the master's userpage to make it easier to see that there have been recently blocked socks. Finally,, can you please globally lock N1631? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:11, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 15:26, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Closing again. Bbb23 (talk) 15:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing style, reverting other users without reason, even private userspace content , removing existing redirects to create nonsense articles , puzzling communication style. Longhair\talk 18:58, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

same patterns as in previous cases JarrahTree 13:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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those that weren't already locked globally. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:57, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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More edits to Indonesian TV channels. I should note they have some interest in MYTV, as these globally locked socks show MYTV in their usernames: MYTV Langsa, MYTV Jakarta, MYTV Aceh, MYTV Medan

Then Ah789 added a bunch of draft pages of MYTV: User:Ah789/sandbox (in Indonesian language), Draft:MYTV, Draft:MYtv, Draft:Mytv. *MYTV (Indonesia) at idwiki was edited by other socks: 1, 2.

Ah789 was also editing the same pages as previously globally locked socks (Syewawawi, Csira20 and Yuorutit) did: Request CU to check the relations, as well as additional accounts if they can be found. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 15:43, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * NET (Indonesian TV channel): 1, 2, 3, 4
 * O Channel: 1, 2, 3, 4 (note that O Channel was also edited by the master)

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Thank you! Here are my thoughts on the possible accounts based on the results: -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 23:34, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to believe that Ivan the Brony Kaiju is a different individual. To my knowledge, Manda 1993 almost never communicates in English; the sockmaster has done simple vandalism on user talk pages at this and other projects which were either non-English or completely incoherenet/incomprehensible English. Should be pretty safe to rule this one out.
 * Ganeishiahfo has only edited Rising Star Indonesia (season 3) which doesn't seem to be Manda 1993's typical interest. The two pages they edited at idwiki, id:Liga Dangdut Indonesia (musim kedua) and id:The Voice Kids Indonesia Musim Ketiga, don't seem to have any apparent connection with Manda 1993 either. They were not recently edited by any known socks of Manda 1993. For now I do not see justification blocking this account.
 * For the other three (Rekipramudyaperkasa, Nadyaamanda12356, Kurniawan123456) technically indistinguishable but possible to master, they mainly attempt to edit things related to "Reki Pramudya Perkasa" which does not look like what Manda 1993 edits. The "manda" in the username is probably a coincidence. They may be some other farm but at this point I don't see apparent connection with Manda 1993.
 * Comment: PlyrStar93 is to be commended on a very thorough understanding of the issues, so many times I have gone to manda's latest weird edits on english wikipedia with very simple responses and simple pleas for english uage. PlyrStar93's understanding is vital for continued actions in relation to the problem. JarrahTree 23:51, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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Globally locked already:

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  22:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  23:59, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the analysis, . Ah789 was the only one that I blocked when presenting the results and I'm fine leaving things as they are. If another admin recognizes something they may take action but I can accept your assessment.

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:24, 27 February 2019 (UTC) ✅
 * is ✅.

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Exellent analysis by leaves me with nothing to do here. All articles created by the socks have been tagged G5. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 09:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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Similar to previous report, interest in Indonesian TV channels, except this time it's Antv instead of Mytv last time. Diff: 1, 2, 3. Edits by previous socks at same page: 1, 2.

Also started spamming at user talk pages as a new account like other socks did: 1, 2 (see contributions of AhManda).

Account is temporarily blocked now; CU requested to confirm. -★- PlyrStar93  → Message me. ← 15:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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✅, blocked and tagged. Can you please globally lock?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:53, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Locked. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 18:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Pinged Manda 1993 in Special:Diff/888508658. Similar interest in Indonesian TV channels, including NET (Indonesian TV channel), BeritaSatu, and Kompas TV Surabaya. Like previous cases, Guoyodu attempted to communicate in Indonesian instead of English. —  Newslinger  talk   17:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Account has been globally locked by . —  Newslinger  talk   17:15, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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 * I've reported this to Base via IRC and account have been locked, the IP only blocked for 1 day. Regards.-- AldNon Ucallin?☎ 17:19, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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Already blocked. This is for record only.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  17:29, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm going to drop this here as well. Drmies (talk) 15:52, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

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Adding unsourced information to articles, mainly involving Indonesian TV stations and contributions are not in English. —Farix (t &#124; c) 20:53, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Added 36.79.28.53 for similar behavior on INTV (who also edited on this page).-- 94rain  Talk 07:09, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * the specific going to sock investigation pages to play with them seems an increasing part of the behaviour of this editor JarrahTree 07:21, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Manda Langsa Vandal Langsa Manda 1993 Langsa. --36.79.28.53 (talk) 14:10, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * editing right here - making an absurdity of the whole process... JarrahTree 14:12, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Manda 1993 Langsa oleh News, Info globa Mata Wikipedia Bahasa Indonesia. dan Crosswiki abuse Manda--125.165.37.246 (talk) 05:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Added for similar edits on . —Farix (t &#124; c) 13:33, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Added two accounts for vandalizing my talk page. -ArdiPras95 (talk) 04:16, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

, LTA BiiiiiK Crosswiki Abuse Manda ke Nama pengguna, nama user BiiiiiK --BiiiiiK (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Manda an Langsa in the television of Litas, Langsa id, 1993 --180.241.80.34 (talk) 06:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * all of the accounts here are either locally blocked or globally locked, and any of the IPs that have edited recently are or have been blocked. This page is semiprotected as is Manda. I suggest running CU on the accounts as the archive indicates there may be some utility to behind-the-scenes technical restrictions, but I probably should not self-endorse as I'm not technically a clerk. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:25, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

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There are a few such as WikiTelevisi that are not locked (blocking in the meantime). Cu wiki updated. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * All the accounts are locked, except which is unlikely (discussed over IRC with Steward). closing.. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * All the accounts are locked, except which is unlikely (discussed over IRC with Steward). closing.. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

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Editing Indonesia related articles, obvious sock. Requesting CU in case there're other accounts. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 09:59, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Same old edit space - no english used, and the same old subject areas, although this time some very odd page moves, I strongly suggest that the pattern is so ingrained, that some enterprising admin might puta level protections on the usual 8 to 10 items JarrahTree 12:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * Please check for sleepers. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 10:02, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ and already globally locked. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ and already globally locked. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

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Considerable moving of pages and usage of Indonesian language only as in the past from Manda 1993 standard signature edit of this editor is the phrase Manda langsa - JarrahTree 14:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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Account now blocked. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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Cross-wiki activity on en/ms/id WP in terms of Indonesian TV channel related articles. Requested at Steward_requests/Global/2019-06 but stewards did not lock this account. 94rain Talk 04:32, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Reply to : Apart from their cross-wiki activity and fields where they are editing, one previous confirmed sock added "NET Visi Media" to one article and this suspected account created Draft:NET_Visi_Media. The suspected one is editing from mobile devices and most of the previous ones are not so they probably do not share the same IPs or UAs. Therefore stewards may not have sufficient technical evidence from loginwiki which only records account creation to perform a global lock and thus enWP CU evidence may be helpful. 94rain  Talk 04:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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why do you think this is Manda? Diffs would help. The steward did not confirm that account which is why it is not locked. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:50, 29 June 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:39, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This does not appear to be Manda but may be another sockmaster. I'm checking with another checkuser and will get back to this.
 * Adith00wiki is Natly 88 which is another cross-wiki sockmaster. Blocking and tagging as suspected. I'll let  decide whether to lock...and thank you for the lock below.
 * idwiki sockmaster, so Can you check Adith00wiki? -- Alaa  )..! 17:51, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * This appears to have been left open by mistake. Closing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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Usual wandering into articles that have been visited so many times as before JarrahTree 08:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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✅. would you please lock this account? — Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Alaa  )..! 17:15, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Case closed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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Based on username, edits and filter log, obvious sock is obvious and blocked. Seems to be the standard practice to report new accounts of this guy. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:17, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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✅ to the master — Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Someguy1221 (talk) 04:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Everyone is globally locked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 15:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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Usual targets - that is the word Manda seems always to be there - and Indonesian language edits no english used JarrahTree 14:04, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * To clarify - regularly visits SCTV (Indonesia), Talk:Manda in Indonesian language comments - common word usage includes langsa JarrahTree 14:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * - Checkuser evidence cannot be used to link IP addresses to an account. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:50, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * IP has already been blocked. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * Special:Contributions/INewsTV_Halaman_(Indonesia) - not using english - key words - Manda
 * User_talk:DF125y possible - sock - ustilising no english at all in edits
 * Bizare sense of humour by this user at: User_talk:O_Channel_TV_Sumut
 * JarrahTree 13:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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I indef blocked INewsTV Halaman (Indonesia) per WP:NOTHERE before seeing this report. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please fix and move this report.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed. There's no DF125y registered as reported. There is a who has interacted with INewsTV Halaman (Indonesia). Both are already blocked & locked. Cabayi (talk) 19:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * - Moved. The user whose talk page was vandalised & deleted, was blocked on meta 6 months ago as a vandal. I can't see the deleted vandalised page here, or the deleted vandalism on meta to make a judgement about whether Manda's taunting us with an undiscovered sock. Cabayi (talk) 19:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I think we can safely assume this is Manda, and I see no need for any further action other than a possible check for accounts that were missed. FYI, here's another one from the history of the deleted Talk page: . I'm closing, but if you want me to run a check, I'm willing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't think it's worth the effort for, there are enough links to that sock, that it's outworn its useful lifespan. On the other hand, the last confirmed sock is on the brink of going stale so a CU to put a fresh mark in the sand & check for sleepers may well be useful, if you please. Cabayi (talk) 20:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No unblocked accounts found. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:48, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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Just for the record. They're already globally blocked. No need for anyone to do anything more. Drmies (talk) 17:52, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Well, that was easy. Not bothering with tags, closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:28, 21 November 2020 (UTC)