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Likely to be simple block evasion. One edit so far, to the same draft for which the master has been discussed at ANI and blocked. CU at your discretion. I am aware IPs are not ever publicly linked to user names Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 10:05, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Given that Marcorubiocali was the only person aside from reviewers who had ever edited that draft, it's a bit too much to believe that a new IP turning up the day after they were blocked is a coincidence. I've given the /64 range a week off, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  11:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Thus far only edits are to Draft:George Cervantes and are along the same lines as Marcorubiocali's editing has been (i.e. essentially promoting the subject). Ordinarily I wouldn't bother filing an SPI for this, but given the username and the circumstances behind Marcorubiocali's block this looks like an attempt to try and intimidate via username. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 16:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * I suppose there's a chance that this is "just" meatpuppetry, based on Goldstein's own representations, but it reads much more like socking with delusions of grandeur. There is not a person on Earth named "Corky Levy Goldstein", but there is a lawyer in Pennsylvania named H. Corky Goldstein, so this seems like someone manufacturing an identity based on a name they saw on a billboard or something—very not-okay—and then throwing another Jewish surname in there... extra-not-okay. If someone really wants to be sure this is the same person, I'd be open to endorsing a check, but I think both roads will lead to the same place in the end, so for an indef as a suspected sock.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC) ed. 18:22, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Subsequent edits make me less confident that this is outright socking, both for behavioral and stylistic reasons. Switching to to hopefully get to the bottom of this. If this is not sockpuppetry, I will still have some questions for Goldstein about their claim to an off-wiki identity.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 18:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * . I've also blocked which Attorney Goldstein II created and used to attempt to add a spam link to their pet article.--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ponyo. Tweaked a tag; closing. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 21:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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A new SPA editing Draft:George Cervantes. CU because of the history, please, plus the potential for sleepers. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 11:36, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Added IP editor. Only just noticed it. Obviously IP CU results are private, but worthwhile for the SPI team. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 11:39, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Since Commons is now involved with the upload of File:George Cervantes Celebrity Matchmaker and Animal Activist.jpg perhaps the outcome if proven might be communicated to Commons for all confirmed socks? Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 12:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * CLL45 says on their talk page that they have, at some prior point, been an editor of Wikipedia. If so this will have been from a different account (unless an IP editor), an account which may have been abandoned legitimately. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 12:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * - No-one aside from socks and reviewers has edited that draft. Archive suggests CU may be helpful. --Jack Frost (talk) 12:28, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * is to previous socks.  Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:17, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The named account has been blocked and tagged. The IP made two edits a few days ago and there's no other activity on the associated /64, so I don't think it's really worth blocking at this time. Feel free to re-report if the IPs continue to actively edit. Closing, thanks. Spicy (talk) 07:40, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Brand new SPA who also knows Draft:George Cervantes personally. I'm going with Ducky McDuckface but the farm has started to become large enough almost to require an automagic CU for sleepers and randoms Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 15:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * Even if we take Martha at their word, this is clear-cut meatpuppetry. I'm often hesitant to invoke WP:MEAT for blocking new accounts, since sometimes a good-faith new user might have some tie to a blocked account, and that's allowed. However, MEAT states A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, may be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining. This is clearly the same behavior that Marcorubiocali has engaged in, promotional edits regarding George Cervantes; the remedy we've applied to Marcorubiocali is an indefinite block, for legal threats made in the context of promotional edits. : Please block MarthaML1972 indefinitely as a suspected sock/meatpuppet of Marcorubiocali. (To be clear, I'm not A'ing much GF about these claims of all being different friends of Cervantes; rather, making the point that it doesn't matter if that's true.)CU . No history of sleepers, and this account's timeline doesn't overlap with any previous ones. Plus all their efforts are focused on this one page. A sleeper can sleep as long as it wants; it'll still be caught when it starts making the same ducky edits. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 19:57, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
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Multiple new accounts only editing to promote George Cervantes @ Draft:Celebrity Matchmakers (see George Cervantes and Draft:George Cervantes for historical promotion) KylieTastic (talk) 12:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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Added MelissaSams99 for pushing Cervantes at Patti Stanger  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 15:15, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Since there is file uploading at Commons, please will the closer or the clerk make Commons aware assuming the outcome is a block, perhaps considering global locks for this pernicious spam farm. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 15:25, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Added Jessfetcher49 for completeness. This is very stale, but created the draft on Cervantes almost a year ago. I found them in the logs for the page. Can't see anything without admin goggles. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 23:17, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

If I had to hazard a guess, my guess is they're focusing on the firm instead of the person because they think the Cervantes draft is a trap, or at least on so many radars that trying to sneak it in is no longer a viable tactic. —A little blue Bori v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 21:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)


 * @Jéské Couriano The issue is that Cervantes is semi-protected. They cannot edit it. But there is a certain desperation about this. My suspicion is that Cervantes feels Stanger is a great rival and he must, somehow, have an article because she has one. My thoughts run to Cervantes being the real life sock master, and that he is doing all this himself. Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 22:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Whether or not that is the case is ultimately academic, doubly so with Marorubiocali's WP:3X ban. The Cervantes draft is not semi-protected as far as I can tell, since the opinions on the MfD were along the lines of "Keep it as a honeypot", something which is far harder to do were the page semi'd. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 23:18, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @Jéské Couriano I stand corrected on the protection Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 23:19, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 18:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * HollywoodCelebrityNews, HollywoodNewsNow, HollywoodNewsOnlineare ✅ to each other and to Marcorubiocali.  ActivistForLife1981 and MelissaSams99 from this report and  and  from the archives are likewise  on the technical data.  I have not done a behavioral analysis, but if the behavior supports it, I wouldn't have any problem with a clerk tagging them all as confirmed.  Jessfetcher49 is . , but the nature of the technical data isn't conducive to a good sleeper scan. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:47, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I've blocked and tagged those accounts I confirmed. I'll leave the rest to a clerk. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 05:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)