Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mark Tufo/Archive

10 April 2014

 * Suspected sockpuppets


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I suppose that this user might be a sleeper account from Mark_Tufo (the user). Rescinded claim of sleeper. While having been dormant for 7 years, 5 months, they have now taken a liking to editing and rewriting the biography and even added an image (which in the description, describes it as an image of Mark Tufo taken by his wife.) The user also removed the Afd notice (though I'm assuming that this was done without knowledge that it shouldn't be removed, but still.) I just think the coincidences line up with the possibility of this account being a sock, meatpuppet, therefore am requesting a checkuser. (Though the possibility that this is a Meatpuppet is not ruled out, more likely, as he did convass for votes on his Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mark-Tufo/133954330009843 )
 * Screenshot if post is removed: http://i.imgur.com/0tbJj4l.png

Thanks.

Diffs: * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Tufo&diff=603619946&oldid=603579520
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Tufo&diff=next&oldid=603619946
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Tufo&diff=next&oldid=603620114 Ging287 (talk) 17:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Official response from user Mark_Tufo ''I freely admit to 'meat puppetry' which my understanding is canvassing my readers for help with keeping this page on Wikipedia. Again my sincerest apologies, I honestly did not know this was not allowed. I am not guilty of sock puppeting though. I did not at any time make more than one account and post using alternate accounts nor did I ask anyone to do this in my behalf. All I have is my word and my lack of expertise in being able to create alternate ip addresses to do such a thing. I am NOT asking for the Editing Block to be removed, I clearly violated the rules of Wikipedia and humbly accept the punishment for it. Mark Tufo'' https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMark_Tufo&diff=603625788&oldid=603623143

Special Note Blocked user cannot post here, so I have done it for them. Ging287 (talk) 17:47, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Official response from user Unsaintly: ''I'm sure that you will all see that I'm -not- Mark Tufo. In your posts regarding "sock puppetry" and "meat puppetry" (who came up with those terms though?) you say not to take things personal. I'd like to retort that investigations shouldn't be made personal. Don't judge me about being on Wikipedia for 7 years without an entry. This isn't that "easy". I spend my time learning HTML code and WordPress and other things, I never had a desire to read the many, many rules and terms regarding Wikipedia until I went to Mark Tufo's page and tried to confirm a movie was coming out for Zombie Fallout. I saw a chance to correct some things and tried my hand at it, so I could say, "HEY LOOK, I did my first Wikipedia page!"...

Mistake? I guess so. I was trying to HELP.

Guess I'll stop trying to put my hand in things if I get judged on how long I've been around and hanging out. I enjoy Wikipedia very much and use it extensively. I just don't UPDATE or contribute because I'm not really an expert at the things I use it for, which would include but not be limited to:

1. For me when researching for school 2. For two of my home-schooled children 3. Research for my business 4. My personal interests

I appeal to your sense of fairness when contacting or making "investigations". Investigate, then make accusations. Not the reverse order.

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Page 2 of about 30,600 results (0.22 seconds) Search Results The Unsaintly | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theunsaintly‎ The Unsaintly. 61 likes. Isabel is caught between Heaven and Hell and makes the ultimate sacrifice..but is it enough? UNSAINTLY | www.unsaintly.com unsaintlybook.wordpress.com/‎ Feb 4, 2014 - Hey,Check out the The Unsaintly mobile app I just used! http://8be2a8e8-1ddd-4d56-813a-bb14883b0046.mobapp.at. Shared from my mobile ...''

From page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mark_Tufo&oldid=603771754 I have merely reposted it. Ging287 (talk) 17:45, 11 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Close SPI is not meant for meatpuppetry. The checkuser tools can't tell us if one user talks to another user.  It's for socks, that's the "S" in SPI.  Close this and let's move on.  The most likely scenario here is that a fan of Mark Tufo saw his message on facebook and said "Hey, I've got a Wiki account lying around somewhere" and came back to meat for him.  He's admitted to meatpuppetry, he didn't realize it violated our rules and has promised not to do it.--v/r - TP 22:42, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Request rescinded. No reason to CU based on the evidence. Risker (talk) 05:32, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Attempt to get Mark Tufo undeleted. UtherSRG (talk) 17:27, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * This case is long stale (last case was in 2014), so comparing to the CU evidence of the other accounts in this case is unlikely to turn up any results. Is there a reason why CU is requested? Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:10, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I hadn't checked on staleness. I created the SPI from Twinkle, and it doesn't say how old the most recent case is. I'll withdraw the CU request. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:22, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:08, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This doesn't look like there's anything going on here. The off-wiki canvassing that previously turned the conduct of other editors with an interest in Tufo into meatpuppetry is no longer applicable nine years later. Absent evidence of new canvassing, this is not meatpuppetry, and I don't really see a reason to think account being operated by Tufo personally to make this sockpuppetry. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:41, 7 June 2023 (UTC)