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 * Creation of pages e.g. that contain information that previous socks have added to the main election page e.g.  vs  vs
 * Usual photo changes e.g.
 * Returning material to article added by previous sock vs  Slp1 (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

I know that you cannot comment on the IP I just added but I am putting it there for the record. The IP address has recently been released from a checkuser block related to Marquis and edits typical topics e.g. UK politicians who change parties; politicians who commit crimes  and replacing edits made by previous socks e.g. vs   Slp1 (talk) 19:50, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅ - also;

- A l is o n  ❤ 22:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The IP is blocked. the confirmed accounts —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 22:59, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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Clearly not new to the site, and has one straight into categorising politicians by ethnicity and changing their photos. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Adding, who has just added photos to long-standing Marquis de la Eirron target List of LGBT politicians in the United Kingdom. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:32, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * I noticed certain categories were missing from the relevant articles and some of the images had not been updated. Therefore I updated them, as similar editors, recently, had done the same thing. Indeed @User:Cordless Larry had also updated it, so I didn't think it would be a problem. HonkyDory64 (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The only relevant question here is are you are Marquis de la Eirron? Cordless Larry (talk) 14:56, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I added the category to the politicians page as you had kindly added a link, which I followed, where he was described as such. So I wanted to thank you for your research. HonkyDory64 (talk) 15:02, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That doesn't really answer the question, does it, HonkyDory64? --Slp1 (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not see what is wrong with adding up to date information that is all sourced and appropriate. Especially when articles are out of date. It's not hurting anyone and its making wikipedia better. HonkyDory64 (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Presuming that you are Marquis de la Eirron, if you want to contribute then you should log into that account and request an unblock. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

IP User:193.60.159.61 (which has been mostly checkuser blocked for the past two years as a Marquis de la Eirron IP) was released for the latest block a couple of days ago. It has already started editing one of the usual targets .--Slp1 (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC) I will add User:EndofAll2020, created just after this SPI was created is continuing the same typical edits (changing pictures, focus on LBGT, ethnic minorities, tables etc). including readding material added by previous sock User:Emerginn e.g.  vs   Slp1 (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 21:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * – bradv  🍁  21:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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Rapid recreation of 4 articles previously created by socks of this person. e.g. vs. ;   vs.. The usual IP address has been blocked for 3 years (User:193.60.159.61 so I guess another one is being used. I am requesting a checkuser to see if any other socks are being used on this IP, and for the record. Slp1 (talk) 17:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


 * As mentioned on User:RoySmith's page, I don't really have any doubt per Duck that this is the same person.


 * These lists of MPs who lost their seats are one of their primary recent interests (see the sockpuppet investigation for User: FollyAllAgain and User:Hollahoppings in August 2019, including ).
 * The chances that anybody different could or would recreate four of these identical tables and content in the space of 17 minutes is extremely small.
 * This person often uses their holidays or trips away to evade the IP blocks placed on their work/school. See the User:KoreanBill and User:183.96.203.13 (particular the latter's talkpage) for a trip to Korea this past fall.  There are others too:  see the 26 August 2011 sockpuppet investigation into  User: 93.109.255.182 where they used an IP when they were in Cyprus, and there are also mentions in that and other SPIs about how they previously edited while on holiday in San Francisco and Las Vegas (as admitted by the editor themselves!!!). Slp1 (talk) 12:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 19:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I can tell you they're in the same country. Everything else is different but that also doesn't say much, so lets go with . TonyBallioni (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In all the previous cases for this sock, the CUs have been able to return Confirmed results. Maybe they've just upped their game, but I'm taking Inconclusive to mean this is somebody else.  Any admin can still evaluate if blocking for some non-socking reason is appropriate.  Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've reopened this to allow consideration of additional evidence presented by -- RoySmith (talk) 13:49, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * upon looking at this again, I've come to the conclusion that I should block MPwatcher20 and G5 the drafts they created. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm happy with that. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:24, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged MPwatcher20, G5'd 4 drafts. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

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SallyWho registered on 5 June and has made 36 edits to 9 June. Their behaviour and evident knowledge of site procedures are not what you would expect of a genuine newbie. Their demands about the content and format of Churchill war ministry are suspicious and it is noticeable that this article has formerly been edited by the blocked Neveselbert and their proven sockpuppet AlbanGeller. It is possible that there may be some connection with the longstanding User:HarveyCarter syndrome which has been evident in several recent instances at Talk:Winston Churchill, the parent article. It is because of this possible alternative that I think the checkuser function should be deployed.

Sallywho restored an unsourced 47kB table to Churchill war ministry and then, after it was removed again, launched a series of vitriolic personal attacks in an astonishingly intense (for a newbie) campaign to have the table restored exactly as it used to be. For example, see this edit, complaining in the edit summary that they are "concerned by the vandalism that is going on on this page!" Immediately afterwards, they removed a different table, which has been in the article for several years, again shouting about vandalism and consensus in the edit summary. Since then, they have gone to ARV and ANI with obvious knowledge of and familiarity with the functions of each.

Additionally, some of their edits at other articles are questionable. On 6 June at David H. Rowe, there were two which constitute a potentially serious breach of WP:BLP. First, this addition categorises the subject as LGBT/gay. It is followed almost immediately by this statement that the subject is openly gay and cites a news report which does not itself confirm the statement. There is a chat facility within the news page where two of its correspondents asserted that the subject is gay. That is not a reliable source, especially as the news report is silent on the matter, and it breaches BLP as no reliable source has been cited. These two edits were quickly reverted by, who posted an "adding unreferenced controversial information about living persons" notice on SallyWho's talk page. SallyWho has subsequently removed that notice.

The above is a summary of the main concerns but please let me know if you need more information or additional edit records. Thank you. No Great Shaker (talk) 12:55, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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Dear whom ever comes across this investigation,

Please see this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Churchill_war_ministry#Moving_forward, which takes you to the Talk Page of the Churchill war ministry to see why the above editor is trying to report me. I should point out that No Great Shaker resigned from Wikipedia yesterday after being quite rude to other editors in the talk page of Churchill: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:No_Great_Shaker&diff=prev&oldid=961563035.

I readded the table, that No Great Shaker deleted in November, for the reason of not liking the table saying it was an ‘horrendous and unnecessary list’ meaning they deleted it because they didn’t like it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Churchill_war_ministry&diff=927805078&oldid=927796948. Fortunately another editor called GraemeLeggett got involved and stopped No Great Shaker doing more reverts and also pointing out that all other articles about British ministries used that table: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard?markasread=192108292&markasreadwiki=enwiki#No_Great_Shaker_vandalism.

I don’t know who nevelsebert is but I’m not connected to their account at all, especially as I just checked and there is a Wikimedia user called Neveselbert: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Neveselbert who also has another account called AlbanGeller who is currently editing on that site: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AlbanGeller. So me and him are not connected at all.

SallyWho (talk) 20:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Certainly hope this mess is cleared up, as to whose socks are whose. GoodDay (talk) 03:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Neveselbert and AlbanGeller are . The following accounts are ✅ to :
 * . Please merge this report into the Marquis de la Eirron case.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * - On hold for training purposes. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:35, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * this needs merging. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , you'll probably need to do it by copy and paste given the overlapping histories. Are you comfortable with how to do it? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Actually, I'm not sure. It's not clear to me how "rename this to X" differs from "merge this into X". -- RoySmith (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Rename generally means that the target SPI page (ie of the master account) doesn't exist so a simple page move works. Merge generally means that the target SPI page (ie of the master account) already exists so either a history merge or copy and paste merge are needed. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've done a bunch of reading, and I'm still not sure I understand the process. I'm going to pick this conversation up at WT:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Clerk and checkuser procedures. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Done. Take a look and verify I didn't screw things up. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think there was a mixup here - as I understand it, Neveselbert and AlbanGeller aren't Marquis de la Eirron socks, they are their own sock group, so SallyWho/DahliaSis/BusyBee76 should have been moved to this SPI but Neveselbert should have stayed its own SPI. creffett (talk) 20:15, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * can you clarify this per the above? There is live CU data on Neveselbert if it's helpful. Also feel free to email as always if there's anything I'm missing :) TonyBallioni (talk) 20:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi all, after talking to other CUs here Neveselbert is ❌ to this case., you’re pretty good at the history splits for cases. Can you try to figure out how to split these so that the old Neveselbert filing is its own case and the current one stays here?Thanks. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:18, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see the need for a history split when the cases were merged the old fashioned way (cut and paste). Cut and paste merge undone. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 11:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Should I do anything?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:49, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sro23 looks to have handled it. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:53, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see the need for a history split when the cases were merged the old fashioned way (cut and paste). Cut and paste merge undone. Closing. Sro23 (talk) 11:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Should I do anything?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  14:49, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sro23 looks to have handled it. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:53, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

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Successive edits at Second American Civil War and one at my talk page lead me to believe that this editor is by no means new to the site. Remembering the problems I had with User:SallyWho last month, I think the complaint made to me about my pending change revert is similar in tone. As Sallywho was found to be a sockpuppet of the Marquis, I think there is a probable connection here too. As I can't be 100% sure about that connection, I've requested the checkuser.

What I am certain about is that AquaBat is by no means a new editor. Their first edit as a member is obviously a follow-up to this one by the IP. The IP was twice reverted by Doug Weller and the member is responding to Doug by sounding off about alleged bias in a way that strongly suggests prior experience of the site. That impression deepens when you read this response to me after I rejected the edit at PCR and especially this message at my talk page, wherein a "new member" is talking with apparent authority about "what Wikipedia considers standard practice" and trying to invoke a suggested guideline called WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY which I have never seen before.

Three subsequent edits, here, here and here serve to reinforce my view that this account is a sockpuppet which is controlled by the Marquis or someone like them. Note also that Doug has rightly warned AquaBat about edit-warring.

Please let me know if you need more from me. Thank you. No Great Shaker (talk) 19:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your time, Amanda and AuH2ORepublican. I can't relate AquaBat to anything political so I may be barking up the wrong tree re SallyWho and the Marquis. It just seems very suspicious that I should again be shouted at by a supposedly new user who is clearly very knowledgeable about the site. The account has been quiet since Doug's warning so perhaps it might be best to set this case aside until such time as there is something more definite to go on. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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If these are Marquis sockpuppet, then the Marquis must have changed his interests dramatically of late. Prior Marquis sockpuppets usually can't resist articles about politicians, particularly those who are British, LGBT, ethnic minorities, party-switchers, or have been convicted of crimes. Are any of these two users' edits related to those areas? AuH2ORepublican (talk) 12:45, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * - No diffs presented to connect previous socks to this user account. CU won't comment on the IP. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 06:54, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing per note of filer, no additional evidence to check or block. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 20:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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See below. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:32, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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✅ to each other and the master: . — Berean Hunter   (talk)  16:32, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Got a missing tag, filed for locks, closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:58, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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The usual MO: I have blocked a few obvious ducks in the 3 months since the last checkuser. This one fits the bill too, but I think it would be good for another check to find any sleepers etc. Slp1 (talk) 16:24, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * crimes by politicians ;
 * tagging people as LGBT ,
 * people with titles ,
 * politicians who lose their seats.
 * people with Covid

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 * - similar behavior and other types of similarities to the socks previously blocked by Slp1 and CU confirmed socks in the archives. Endorsing for the reasons specified by Slp1 (a sleeper check). Last CU was run in July and there are still some non-stale confirmed socks. There is a history of this sockmaster using sleeper accounts. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:51, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Same range, but I'm not willing to mark anyone as a sleeper right now. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 18:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , other than the lack of sleepers, did you find anything specific about ‎Sillysilly44? Does "same range" mean the same thing as "likely"? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So I will wonder away from the regular templates when I think it's better to not use them as it gets us thinking in very certain terms when the whole picture should be looked at. The same range means two things 1) It's not just the same ISP, as an ISP can have multiple ranges, but it's actually the same range which means they are in the same geographic area most times. It is better than someone who is not on the same range, but on the same ISP. 2) It means the UAs don't match in an understandable way, which means I can't say for sure. What that basically means, is add it with some solid behavioral evidence (like similar talking styles, 2-3 different topic overlaps, something related to timing, etc. though not just editing in one topic area). Basically, I'd target for at least 50% certainty in behavior alone for you to consider a block. Given Larry's comment below, it seems like you would have that. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 23:42, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , OK, thanks for the deeper insight. Based on their basic behavior, I'm convinced they are not the new user they appear to be, and more specifically, with your finding, that they're a Marquis sock. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd block this as a WP:DUCK case. I addition to the behavioural evidence above, making requests of other users to get around barriers to editing, such as ‎Sillysilly44 did with here, is something this user has started to do - see this. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

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I have wondered about this account for a long time but it has now checked all the usual boxes (as well as a few others that I won't mention per beans)
 * Interest in:


 * peers of the realm
 * LBGT politicians
 * politicians who switch parties.
 * Switching pictures ... this onewas uploaded by DimSum38 [Dimsun ] an old (blocked) sock of the Marquis de la Eirron (who is incidentally known as JimmyJoe87 on Commons.)  Slp1 (talk) 17:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks again Oshwah for this super fast work. Very interesting.  This has happened before because Marquis seems to travel a lot, though that might be hard at the moment.  I guess a close look at the behaviour is required. I will delve a bit deeper to be sure.. Slp1 (talk) 17:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I've taken a look again, and I don't think the behaviour is similar enough for WP:DUCK- the coincidences are extraordinary but perhaps that is what they are.  So I would like to withdraw this for now at least.Slp1 (talk) 13:44, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * ❌ as far as checkuser evidence goes...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:17, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Closing per filer. Sro23 (talk) 16:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * I blocked User:BrendaJones54 a few days ago as an obvious sock of Marquis de la Eirron. The usual type and intersection of edits: politicians and crime, tables,, lists of women politicians, tagging LBGT politicians politicians who have changed parties  interest in Korea     Also, way too knowledgeable for a new user.
 * I noticed the IP this morning, editing from the same general geographic region, I believe, based on the range blocks etc. Also editing the same topics.   Also compare BrendaJones  and the IP.

I know that checkusers don't comment on IPs, but since the editor seems back again possibly a sweep and a record of it is a good idea. Slp1 (talk) 15:26, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * - TheresNoTime 😺 20:17, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Additional accounts:


 * adding for script - TheresNoTime 😺 20:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)


 * All listed accounts are ✅ to . Any CU-confirmed socks of are now stale, however I am going to opt to CU-block these as confirmed given the consistent technical and behavioural data. . Obligatory  - TheresNoTime 😺 20:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * for the lot, the IP is caught in a rangeblock. Closing. Blablubbs (talk) 20:34, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Locked.  Operator873 connect  01:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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Both users have created messy articles of the people who died of COVID-19. User:CartwrightMoon and User:SegmentedTime2 have both acted as recently blocked user by the name of User:Ladislyzk77 who was indefinitely blocked permanently. I hope both suspected sockpuppeteers will be blocked indefinitely. Steam5 (talk) 06:41, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * CartwrightMoon re-instated (all with manual reverts, see the beginning of their edit run on 3 August, prior to page creations) a bunch of Ladislyzk77 edits I reverted, see intersection list. Ladislyzk77 was confirmed in the last check. Reinstating over 10 sock edits (on a 90 edit account) is a pretty damning match, regardless of CU.-- Eostrix  (&#x1F989; hoot hoot&#x1F989;) 13:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I really don’t have any doubts either. CartwrightMoon has created at least one “politicians who are gay article” and SegmentedTime2 quickly edits an article  I had G5d but had been legitimately recreated . But another sweep would still be good, as there are usually multiple accounts. I was thinking of putting a semi protected on the List of deaths due to COVID-19 since it seems the current main focus. What do people think? Slp1 (talk) 16:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * oh and by the way they are back editing as an IP too. User:92.22.239.60. I know you can’t comment, but for the record..Slp1 (talk) 17:04, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Also for the record, I have also blocked two DUCK editors in the last couple of days: user:Rdfffhm and user:Cerrm09Slp1 (talk) 13:01, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @Slp1 what in particular makes you think these two are Marquis socks? -- RoySmith (talk) 13:33, 15 August 2021 (UTC)




 * for Rdfffhm List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes and related subjects is a long-standing interest of MdlE. This edit   reinstates the edit of a previous confirmed sock User:Sillysilly44, complete with formatting, access dates etc.
 * for Cerrm09 List of female members of the House of Commons of the United Kingdom is a longstanding target. This edit  adds back a photo uploaded to Commons by a confirmed sock Photobooth11   and previously included by confirmed sock User:Herssed  Way too knowledgeable for a new user. Note MdlE is called JimmyJoe87 on Commons.  Slp1 (talk) 14:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * - There's absolutely no doubt that CartwrightMoon and SegmentedTime2 are the same person, so I've blocked them. Comparing to Ladislyzk77 and BrendaJones54, I see some distinct similarities, but also some differences which make me unsure if they're actually Marquis.  Asking for CU to confirm the connection before tagging and going off on a G5 spree. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * - ~TNT (she/they • talk) 19:39, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Case still, just seen something funky ~TNT (she/they • talk) 20:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * - Please do not process this SPI any further, will update shortly. Many thanks ~TNT (she/they • talk) 20:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * These accounts and :
 * are ✅ to each other.
 * are ✅ to.


 * These accounts not blocked as :
 * are ✅ to (etc).




 * CUs advised to double-check WHOIS data in this case.
 * No checks were done on . ~TNT (she/they • talk) 20:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @TheresNoTime I know you may not be able to give a good answer to this, but are UserBlue08, ExterningWiki and PlagueOfHeretics all at least confirmed to each other? The reason I ask is because from a behavioral point of view, I'm convinced that  PlagueOfHeretics is SegmentedTime2, but I'm not sure if that's enough to say the other two are as well. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, are confirmed to each other, hope that helps ~TNT (she/they • talk) 16:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Based on the editing overlap at List of deaths due to COVID-19 and the CU results, calling the last three proven. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * . --Blablubbs (talk) 12:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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A newly registered editor who's so far entirely focussed on the entries for politicians at List of deaths due to COVID-19 and who has strong opinions about the matter. This looks very similar to the behaviour of the last batch of socks discussed at Sockpuppet investigations/Marquis de la Eirron/Archive. Still, I'm not completely sure, so I'm requesting the opinion of and, who I imagine are more familiar with the case. – Uanfala (talk) 14:14, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Blocked & tagged, requested glock. Also semi-protected List of deaths due to COVID-19.  I'm actually not 100% sure they're MdlE, but if not, then clearly a sock of somebody.  -- RoySmith (talk) 14:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * User:208.127.199.37 edits from the same known geographical area as Marquis de la Eirron (the Manchester UK area).


 * User:TimeSprint acknowledged editing first as this IP before creating an account, days after the last sock User:1IfYouSaySo was blocked..


 * Both the IP and TimeSprint edit Marquis’s usual targets: the current major interest is People who died of COVID (see previous socks, but also lists, categories and British politicians and their photos. In the latter category is to restore an edit by confirmed sock user:BrendaJones54  Brenda  cf IP .  Another direct overlap is TimeSprint returning the same covid category as confirmed sock User:Ladislyzk77 cf   and .  I would like a sweep for socks as this sockpuppeteer usually creates multiple accounts. Slp1 (talk) 21:47, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * - It's a no-brainer that TimeSprint is a sock, but given the history, a check for sleepers makes sense. In the meantime, I've upgraded List of deaths due to COVID-19 to ECP. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ plus a bunch more. All blocked and noted in my log if you want to request locks. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

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Account has a singular focus on mass-restoring edits by previously confirmed socks (seemingly mostly CartwrightMoon - see EIA).

Requesting CheckUser as there is something of a history of other accounts being found during checks. firefly ( t · c ) 09:49, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * - looks very obvious, please check for sleepers given the history. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 06:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 20:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * CommsLnd ✅  -- RoySmith (talk) 20:46, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Tagged,, closing. Spicy (talk) 21:04, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Five days ago, I blocked 78.147.85.85 as an obvious sock of Marquis de La Eirron. Same location, same predictable interests, including Covid, political who are committed of crimes, LBGT politicians. A couple of days later, User:ReinkoTu asks another editor to make an edit on List of LGBT politicians in the United Kingdom., a pattern used this person in the past to avoid scrutiny. But it didn't work!! ReinkoTu is too knowledgeable for a new user and has the usual interests including LGBT politicians in the United Kingdom, ; British peers

Since this person usually has multiple socks going at once, I am asking for a sweep for other socks. Slp1 (talk) 22:03, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * All of these are ✅ to each other: . The best I can do to connect them back to Marquis de la Eirron is . -- RoySmith (talk) 23:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking all the accounts I found, and requesting glocks.  I leave it to a clerk to figure out how they want to do the tagging.   -- RoySmith (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * as confirmed to each other, and suspected to . Closing. --Jack Frost (talk) 12:13, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Suspicious due to:
 * 1) Account created after last blocks in April.
 * 2) Editing the same COVID lists as previous socks: WIA with blocked sock Malig77
 * 3) As previous socks, creating stubs of politicians who died from COVID: Santos Adelmo Rivas, Juan José Martel, Sergio Jacobo Gutierrez  Pika voom  Talk 15:00, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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Good catch. For what it is worth, I have absolutely no doubt that this is MdlEirron. They try to separate out their interests over different accounts but the overall picture is very clear. There is also the overlap in Caroline Henry: previous creation by confirmed sock Malig77 and unsuccessful AFC submission by HamiltonWest19, one of this batch   Slp1 (talk) 20:57, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * -  Girth Summit  (blether)  18:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ to the accounts in the 19 April case in the archive, along with:
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocking and requesting locks. Girth Summit  (blether)  18:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Article Richard Beckford has been created twice by socks. Now a very similar/identical version has been published by the user EFMangs. – NJD-DE (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I saw that creation as well in the New Pages Feed. This account's overall editing pattern is also very similar to that of the blocked socks. ComplexRational (talk) 14:58, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * EFMangs is ✅. I also see  who is ✅ but I'm not sure the editing pattern fits, so asking somebody who is more familiar to take a look. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I took a closer look at JamesLeie95. Yeah, that's them.  Blocked and tagged, clsoing. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:03, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * , archiving. Spicy (talk) 18:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Nearly brand new account, recreating a bunch of the masters articles, particularly, Neil Tirkey, which is a word for word recreation of 's version, not to mention they joined just 10 days after the last sock block PRAXIDICAE🌈 23:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * All of these are ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 23:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * -- RoySmith (talk) 23:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
as per usual, reinstating sock edits at List of COVID-19 deaths in Oceania, already reported for glock but requesting a sock check anyway given their proclivity for multiple accounts. (Also see significant ip socking in the linked article) <span style="color: snow; font-weight: bold; background: linear-gradient(crimson, salmon, olivedrab, teal, DarkOrchid, orchid)">PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:10, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 18:29, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sock is already locked. The SandDoctor  Talk 14:14, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I have blocked this user as an obvious sock of MdlE. Today's edits reinsert previous edits by confirmed past sock User:Khoroslive e.g.   and  vs

I missed the IP in early September, but it reinstated all the edits of Khoroslive here. I know you won't comment but noting this for the record. I am asking for a sweep as there is rarely just one sock floating around. Slp1 (talk) 17:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you. For what it is worth, Developigng (and confirmed socks) is, for me, definitely Marquis de la Eirron. Politicians convicted of crimes, asking others to proxy edit, LGBT politicians, covid deaths etc etc.  Not sure that it makes a practical difference but in case it does.... --Slp1 (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 17:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Correction: ✅ but only to -- RoySmith (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The IP has not edited in a month, so blocking it at this point is unlikely to accomplish anything. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The SandDoctor Talk 12:14, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
New editor who's cropped up at long-term Marquis de la Eirron target List of ethnic minority politicians in the United Kingdom. Same focus on Paul Scully as previous sock, plus similarities in edit summary style. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:51, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 19:44, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Both of these are ✅ . Glocks requested. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:02, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The two suspected users have created non-notable people including some politicians from India. Despite both accounts are globally locked and already blocked. Both User:Malig77 and User:RioCap1 act as the original sockpuppeteer Marquis de la Eirron. Can someone perform the checkuser if Malig77 and RioCap1 both act as Marquis de la Eirron? Thank you in advance. 2001:569:74E3:4000:CD55:C2DE:330E:182D (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * RioCap1 is ✅, blocked and tagged. Malig77 is stale. Materialscientist (talk) 23:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 05:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The suspected IP user have continous make a large edit of people died of COVID-19. The IP user 81.102.16.11 is from Manchester, England, UK and User:Marquis de la Eirron is also from Manchester, England, UK. The IP user from Manchester, England User:81.102.16.11 acts as sockpuppeteer Marquis de la Eirron. Can someone perform the checkuser if User:81.102.16.11 act as Marquis de la Eirron? Thank you in advance. 2001:569:74E3:4000:75BA:B932:F8E7:1991 (talk) 01:46, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * CU . Spicy (talk) 23:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , blocked for a month. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:17, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
political edits, inmcluding repeatedly adding an LGBT category to Tom Ross (politician) without source. diff, diff. See Long-term abuse/Marquis de la Eirron DuncanHill (talk) 13:47, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked, again. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 18:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
The suspected registered user have continously creadted and make a large edit of people died of COVID-19. The registered user named User:AbeOska act as User:Marquis de la Eirron. Can someone perform the checkuser if User:AbeOska act as Marquis de la Eirron? Thank you in advance. 2001:569:74E3:4000:3566:761B:5177:6369 (talk) 23:03, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

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I check User:AbeOska's contributions and User:AbeOska has created articles of people who died of COVID-19 including Indian politicians. Please block User:AbeOska who act as User:Marquis de la Eirron, it's urgent. 50.98.216.235 (talk) 09:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * AbeOska is . -- RoySmith (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Tagged, closing. Spicy (talk) 23:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I would have blocked straightway but a sweep for socks is often fruitful. The usual pattern: switching pictures, politicians who committed crimes Lgbt politicians  Slp1 (talk) 23:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * I have no experience with Marquis de la Eirron, and got here by sheer chance, via WP:AIV. It is clear from CU logs that AbeOska = Virgoikonio = BronteHeight, hence blocked those three. Materialscientist (talk) 10:12, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Tagged, closing. Spicy (talk) 23:06, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Editing in a similar behavior as they were when previously blocked. Last 3 month block expired in July, and their editing has continued since then. 2601:1C0:4401:F60:D587:449F:646D:BACC (talk) 17:37, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for a year. Courcelles (talk) 17:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Making similar edits as previous sock, Grey Gowrie, Rubina Saigol, Barthélémy Attisso etc, interested in politicians and COVID-19. Re-created Haru Rajwar (as Hare Rajwar) a previously deleted article created by sockmaster. Sohom (talk) 11:49, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Confirmed to historic data - blocked and tagged.  Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  12:04, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
An IP has repeatedly add too much people who died of COVID-19 in the List of deaths due to COVID-19. The IP 114.34.184.219 has evade a block and act as the original sockpuppeteer Marquis de la Eirron. I put the IP 114.34.184.219 in the AIV. 2001:569:74E3:4000:D8C7:7204:41F7:BEF2 (talk) 02:13, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  13:06, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No response. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  00:45, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Huge overlap in articles, and same kind of edits. E.g. they deliberately misspelled names at an article and then created the resulting redlinks: at the same article, previous sock Dellington1 had done the same with the same name (but changed to a different wrong name). This also follows a similar Dellington1 edit (for more of the same, see here). Considering the subtle and not so suble vandalism, please revert or G5 delete all their edits. Fram (talk) 16:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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Recreating the deleted creations of the sockmaster, such as Arif Atilla Osmançelebioğlu and Francisco Datol Jr.. <b style="padding:5px">SailingInABathTub</b> <b style="padding:5px;background:#3366cc;color:white">🛁</b> 14:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * I checked because they made the interesting move of trying to archive this SPI case. Unsurprisingly ✅ to . Tagging, requesting lock. Spicy (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Matches the area of interest, in that, they're focused on government officials that pass WP:NPOL but died of complications from COVID-19. Writing and style matches up with the deleted articles from recent socks. They also recreated 3 articles that had previously been G5 deleted (Mikhail Beskhmelnitsyn, Arnaldo de Sá, and Süleyman Gazi Erçel). Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

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Looking at the edits I would say very likely, close to a duck. For what it is worth for the checkuser that I blocked User:80.169.148.141 as an obvious sock. It seems like there was a trip to London for the weekend for a hotel stay? The timing coincides with when HelpmenLondon started editing. A sweep for other socks might be good. --Slp1 (talk) 18:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I have created articles of individuals who are notable and have their own pages on other wikipedia pages whether that be the Russian, French or Portuguese. All of my edits are sourced and accurate. Please don't delete them as I work really hard on these articles so that they are correct and they are important to wikipedia for knowledge purposes. 14 years ago an account called the Marquis de la Eirron was blocked because a young editor didn't understand copyright for images and adding sources for content, but since then they have. Many of those who blocked that editor 14 years ago either later got blocked themselves or no longer edit.

What can I do to get unbanned as to say that someone cannot edit wikipedia for the rest of their life is not fair, especially when all of the edits, relating to the Marquis account, have been accurate and correct for many, many years, indeed you can check the previous blocked accounts so that you can see for yourself. HelpMenLondon (talk) 19:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Just to be clear @HelpMenLondon, you're confirming that you're Marquis de la Eirron? Hey man im josh (talk) 20:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi..You have been told before what you have to do. See User_talk:183.96.203.13. Follow instructions at WP:CBAN and WP:OFFER. No edits for at least six months. No socks, nothing. And then request unbanning. If you can forgo editing for a year, I might even support. What gives me pause, however, it is not true that your edits have been correct for years. Quite often you have claimed someone died of Covid when the sources don't support it. Slp1 (talk) 20:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * I've blocked, given the self-admission. Confirmed to past accounts, FWIW. The blockee may read WP:SO if they wish. Closing. Spicy (talk) 20:32, 16 February 2024 (UTC)