Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MathKeduor7/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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Both MathKeduor7 and Dennui "retired" today after Dennui claimed they weren't going to edit English WP again after being denied autopatrolled (diff), while Dennui II was created and continued to edit (although both Dennui and MathKeduor7 have "retired" multiple times before). There's a lot of overlap in article editing between accounts with a similar focus on mathematician biographies (most recently Draft:Peano surface). But see also the overlap at Doris Fischer-Colbrie. Both users seem to be native Portuguese speakers and have a habit of declaring that they "don't feel well" (see here and here).

I'm not sure what the best course of action is here, but this is all too much. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:02, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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Isn't it obvious that Dennui and Dennui II are the same person? MathKeduor7 (talk) 14:13, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

I never did hide that I am Dennui. MathKeduor7 (talk) 14:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, but you've violated WP:BADSOCK by editing the same articles under both accounts (and I see no disclosure made anyway). How many other accounts do you have? –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I did not know I could not edit the same articles with different accounts. I have only other one here on English Wikipedia. I have ten on Portuguese Wikipedia. MathKeduor7 (talk) 14:18, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

By the way, I have a mental disorder, AND I WILL open legal actions against Wikimedia if they check-user me globally. I accept a local check-user. 14:15, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

And I see some conflict of interest here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_Vorbis#Product_rule MathKeduor7 (talk) 14:16, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Look, please cancel this check-user... I am not feeling feel, I am in hypomania and just ingered 500 g of dextrose so I would not fall to the ground. MathKeduor7 (talk) 14:19, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I've blocked the main account and both sock accounts but given that they say they have 10 accounts on another project I would not be inclined to take them at their word that they have only these two here. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've alerted a ptwiki CU. DMacks (talk) 16:11, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The master and two socks above are ✅ in addition to which I've blocked and tagged. Moving case to hold in case  hears anything back from the ptwiki CU. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Tks4Fish commented on this in a checkuser-l thread today (started by Beebs.) Not sure if you’ve seen it so giving a heads up :) TonyBallioni (talk) 05:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tony. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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After their block and threatening to continue to sock, they're not even bothering to be subtle about it. Same focus on mathematicians, overlap in articles, etc. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 03:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also editing under Special:Contributions/189.6.234.91 –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 03:49, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Both these accounts made their first edit within an hour of each other (all right after MathKeduor's block):
 * I AM NEFERTITI (hereafter just "nefertiti")'s first edit was a revert of an established editor's edit to Hindemburg Melão Jr. (diff) restoring an edit of the listed IP, an article which had previously been edited by by both MathKeduor7 and one of his socks (Dennui) (see article history).
 * สุนัขที่ดี (hereafter just "thai")'s first edit (after making a user page) was to revert nefertiti's revert (diff).
 * nefertiti's creation of Draft:Wei Ming Ni (again, a mathematician bio, MathKeduor7's main focus) has subsequently been edited by both thai and the same IP (or in the same /24 at least), after having dumped notice of its existence without comment on 's talk page (via thai, diff), a user that both MathKeduor7 and sock Dennui had sought help from in the very recent past (see that talk page for more).
 * Apologies for not being this specific earlier. It's easy to forget that what's obvious to me after dealing with this over the past several days isn't necessarily obvious to someone who's looking at it fresh. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 11:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , why would I AM NEFERTITI revert their own sock's edits? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:07, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:GHBH variant, of course – same reason any sock has one account talk to the other to appear to be two different people. Why would nefertiti make the same draft that Gumshoe suggested to MathKeduor7, which just so happened to be the one that thai told Gumshoe about.  Why would nefertiti and thai both find their way to the same obscure bio that MathKeduor7 (as Dennui) had been editing recently within hours of their account creation – all of these also overlapping with edits from the same IP range geolocating to Porto Alegre, Brazil.  This is really WP:DUCK-level behavior.  The reason I asked for the CU was because MathKeduor7 boasted about having 10 accounts on pt.wiki and might very well be making more here once discovered. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 03:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Per the new message on the talk page, I've also added Ariel C.M.K. above, which appears to be another account of this user, although unused since 2015. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For completeness, I also added CiliaRosesJoinsBlue, which was only used for one day in 2016 but also shows a similar pattern: creation of a basic user page, focus on mathematician bios, editing of Relationship between mathematics and physics, a little-edited page which has also been worked on by Dennui and Ariel C.M.K. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ditto Olavo Belavan. Only used for one day, but created the the article Qualitative theory of differential equations, which has also been edited by MathKeduor7, Cilia, and an IP geolocating to the same city. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 15:12, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * And 15 more; all follow the same pattern, short-term use (often only one or a few days), various overlap in article editing, very often a bare-bones userpage with one or two userboxes, usually deceptively varying in language used. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 16:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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I would like to clarify that my interactions with this user should be completely clear from my talk page. In particular, they said at one point "By the way, I am good at creating biographies.. If you want some mathematician covered here, I can try" after which I suggested the names of several mathematicians without wikipedia pages who have made very notable contributions to the field. Since then, they have made the basic pages for some of these mathematicians and posted them on my page, after which I've added in details. This has been the case for Doris Fischer-Colbrie, Basilis Gidas, Joel Spruck, Hiroshi Fujita, and most recently Wei-Ming Ni which I am in the middle of editing. This should be clear from the histories on those pages, with the exception of Doris Fischer-Colbrie, where you will see from my talk page that I contributed a significant part of the text.

I'm saying this just so that it's clear that, whatever happens here, none of those pages should be deleted -- as Deacon Vorbis recently put a speedy deletion tag on Wei-Ming Ni's page because of this investigation (although he reverted it after I pointed out the edit history). Gumshoe2 (talk) 12:40, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey, so, I don't have a clue of what is happening here, but first, the article I created was seen like someone else created it (?), then my photo was taken, and now I'm accused of being someone else, like, I don't know what this is all about but I am sure I am myself. Well, it's not that hard to track my IP so you can see that I'm the only one in my house that uses Wikipedia, I don't know why they didn't do it in the first place. Last but not least, I was planning on not getting my identity revealed, that's why I suggest they could track my IP. If that's really not possible, I can unhappily reveal who I am –my full name, if that becomes so necessary. I AM NEFERTITI (talk) 19:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * สุนัขที่ดี is ✅, . I AM NEFERTITI is but,, I'd like some more evidence to support that account being a sock of MathKeduor7. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:02, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The evidence presented above combined with the CU result convinces me that I AM NEFERTITI is a sock of MathKeduor7. Blocked, tagged and closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)